TOPIC: How does goodlookingloser make money? (Serious question)

Logan wrote:

KingKratom wrote: I don't have anything to add this this conversation- just wanted to say I have mad respect for your breadth of knowledge Logan.

You're my age (or younger?) and you know a lot more about *real life* stuff than I do.
I think I know so little because my parent's have always handled my finances and setting up appointments for everything and etcetcetc.

And I'm still in college too. I've had to experience very little of the *real world*.

Thanks man. The respect is mutual. I am 22. So I am barely younger than you(I think I remember you saying you were 23 somewhere). I really don't have any real world experience either. I've never even had a job lol. I just learned stuff from reading online and my dad and grandpa have always talked about this kind of stuff with me too. I guess I've learned some stuff in college as well but they don't tell you too much about the real world in college lol.

JohnnyMack wrote: Hey i've been looking into creating a blog similar to goodlookingloser (Manosphere/Red Pill) and decided to do a bit of research on how I can make money off it.

One of the first things that I saw were advertising & affiliate marketing.

What I've noticed with this site is that it has no advertising which is quite odd as that's how most blogs make their money (I think)

Anyone have any answers?

Thanks!

rippedsmart wrote: I mean thats just basically churn and burn. You aren't getting people that really care that much about your list in the first place or putting that much work into getting them to sign up, so you don't care about keeping them engaged. Then just link to amazon or some shit, and get a ton of affiliate money from the 1% that click through.

The difference between this and something like GLL is that its not so passive (Chris still makes money from reviews he wrote years ago, whereas probably 99% of people on these lists unsubscribe after the first email), and that it doesn't add any value. Chris gets money from us, we get his fucking incredible advice. With a pump and dump email list people just get marketing spam that provides nothing to their life.
Inherent to this approach is you have to keep coming up with videos of midgets picking up models or something to pump the list. We all stay on GLL because we get value every time we come here.

meijin wrote: Actually, list building and marketing to that list can be profitable. The key is, you have to provide them with not only a good deal, but authority and value. By that, I mean that you have to establish yourself as an authority in whatever it is you are marketing to them (not necessarily a specific product, but a topic or category that multiple products that fall into that category). You also need to provide them with actionable information that they consider to be valuable. Then they will buy from you and continue to buy from you (as long as you are reasonable good at copywriting/headlines and writing the actual reviews).

I started building my email list for my current site on July 11th. Right now I am at about 1,800 subscribers. When I send out an email for the "deal" or product I am offering, I get about a 38% - 46% open rate on those emails. And generally speaking, each email campaign results in about $20K in sales minimum.

Blogs are generally used to:

#1. Help establish yourself as an authority on said given topic/subject.
#2. Provide a means (along with email) to communicate valuable info (which helps with #1 above).
#3. Gather email address for your list.
#4. Rank in the search engines to drive traffic to your site (to help with #1, #2 and #3 above).

KingKratom wrote: i guess it is a good that there are a bunch of dimwits out there for people to profit off of

this approach would fall on its face with most people here at GLL i believe
for the most part i'd say everyone here is intelligent and not retarded

makes me kind of mad that the "outline" you just showed actually works

steveny wrote: I made it sound spammier than it really is. You shouldn't just hard sell every e-mail. It's best to provide some content and soft sell, but I do think it is good to make sure you remind your list of your product every single e-mail because you never know when they are ready to buy. My unsubscribe rate is about 5% (every day 5% unsubscribe, but I get way more new leads so my list is constantly growing).

Also, it is passive. You don't write new e-mails all the time. You set up an auto-responder so when someone joins they get email 1, then a few days later email 2, etc. On the lead acquisition side you just need 1 "squeeze" page that works and a big enough traffic source to generate new, fresh leads.

steveny wrote: Wow, $20K per e-mail to just 1800 people? What are you selling or did I read this wrong?