TOPIC: Calling all NYC losers given recent events.

Not sure how many of my fellow loser are in NYC but my lease is expiring towards the end of August. I got a while but I want to know if it is worth it for me to stick with the city in terms of game, meeting women, and all that. The nightlife is not going to be the same after COVID and bars and nightclubs might not open for the rest of 2020. So many people have left according to news and it is the rich and wealthy too.

For a while, this city was the Mecca of game with good gender ratios, hot girls, fun nightlife, and a culture that allowed you to fuck around and have tons of sex with random women well into your 30s.

Do you guys think it is worth it to stick it out in this city long-term despite the recent circumstances with the lockdown and even the upcoming riots?

I’m in a similar boat, I’m planning on moving to a bigger city later this year. But the lockdowns have me reconsidering some things.

I’m trying to be optimistic, I think people (young people especially) will get tired of the restrictions and not embrace any sort of “new normal”. Even if politicians have grandiose plans about phased reopening, social distancing, and all that, people are not going to live in fear and things will go back to normal sooner than the “experts” say.

I’m also more seriously concerting places like Florida (Miami), Texas (Austin), and Arizona (Phoenix). These places have been much less severe with their lockdowns, and may become much more popular for young people compared to “historical” places like LA and NYC.

I am thankful I got out of my lease earlier than I was expecting. I probably won't rent an apartment in NYC until 2022.

What's your definition of long-term?

I think nightlife will come back sooner than you realize, but NYC will probably be last just by the nature of the virus there. NYC has the best reputation for available women so I get the appeal. I bet NYC will bounce back in 6-12 months if you want to stick it out.

Personally, it's not my scene. Somewhere like Raleigh NC seems ideal to me. Better weather, less crowded, more affordable, beaches close enough for a weekend getaway. And they have a favorable male to female ratio (like NYC) that makes pickup easier for guys.

Dalton wrote: I am thankful I got out of my lease earlier than I was expecting. I probably won't rent an apartment in NYC until 2022.

What's your definition of long-term?

At least a 9 to 12 month lease.

I don't know what is going on but this stuff is actually starting to get scary.

I don't know if this is temporary and it will pass or if this is ominous signs of things to come in the future.

I live near a major city and they have been rioting here for days. Curfew is in place. Before all this started I was still going out even with COVID going on and started seeing places in the city where people had spray painted "Eat the rich". I thought it was just regular vandalism but now I am seeing the same slogan in videos on the internet.

I remember feeling chilled when I saw it, something about it was just really ominous, wrote it off though and now the fucking city is getting looted and burned and you are subject to immediate arrest if you are on the streets or driving late at night. You have cars trying to run over people and cops. And people trying to drag people out of there cars and give them mob beatings.

I feel like someone is trying to start a socialist uprising / revolution. I don't trust the fucking government either. If anything they seem more than happy to just sit back and let this shit happen or even outright encourage / fund it. There is definitely more going on here than people understand including me.

I don't know why the FBI hasn't already infiltrated these guys and broken up their cells and put them all in prison. But I don't trust them or my government.

It's literally becoming martial law. Maybe it will blow over hope so. I don't think anything will ever be the same as it was years ago though.

Time to get a CCW and start carrying and a AR - 15.

Taylor1345 wrote: I don't know what is going on but this stuff is actually starting to get scary.

I don't know if this is temporary and it will pass or if this is ominous signs of things to come in the future.

I live near a major city and they have been rioting here for days. Curfew is in place. Before all this started I was still going out even with COVID going on and started seeing places in the city where people had spray painted "Eat the rich". I thought it was just regular vandalism but now I am seeing the same slogan in videos on the internet.

I remember feeling chilled when I saw it, something about it was just really ominous, wrote it off though and now the fucking city is getting looted and burned and you are subject to immediate arrest if you are on the streets or driving late at night. You have cars trying to run over people and cops. And people trying to drag people out of there cars and give them mob beatings.

I feel like someone is trying to start a socialist uprising / revolution. I don't trust the fucking government either. If anything they seem more than happy to just sit back and let this shit happen or even outright encourage / fund it. There is definitely more going on here than people understand including me.

I don't know why the FBI hasn't already infiltrated these guys and broken up their cells and put them all in prison. But I don't trust them or my government.

It's literally becoming martial law. Maybe it will blow over hope so. I don't think anything will ever be the same as it was years ago though.

Time to get a CCW and start carrying and a AR - 15.

Bothers me because the only solutions being proposed are:
1. Print money and do socialist shit
or
2. Print more money and do more socialist shit.

I'd like to point out that the CIA literally overthrew governments all throughout the world during the 1900's in order to install pro-US governments.. And central banks. You can literally follow the trail of war through the countries that didn't have central banks and defended their citizens first.

They've been keeping interests rates artificially low for 30+ years, devaluing our money and destroying our ability to save.

While high corporate taxes and minimum wage laws are literal gold to monopolies and large corporations. They have scales of size so they just eat that shit up. Woohoo. Who the fuck can compete with these tax rates and regulations? There's more monopolies and consolidated wealth than any other recent point in history. Yet there's more socialist policies than ever. Yet people don't see the fucking correlation.

I hope it blows over mate. I do. But just last month the price of meat and eggs went up 4.5%. That's a 50%+ yearly inflation rate. We've seen incredible inflation in the housing and financial sectors, but now that main street is getting bailed out we're going to see inflation in consumer staples and goods.

It's very possible FIAT currencies around the world could devalue very fast.

It's basic logic. Nothing is free. If you increase the supply of dollars while supply of goods and services is decreasing there are less goods and services to bid on and more money to bid with so prices go up.

I hope for the best. I hope it calms down but I don't see an easy solution when the average person is so incredibly out of touch with reality. I see millions of people hanging themselves while basically nobody addresses the real problems globally with central banks and federal governments. This isn't just an american problem. It's a global one

And I get that its a racial issue that sparked this. But the real source of the unrest in the US and around the world is wealth inequality. More socialist policies will only further siphon wealth to the elite ruling class. But people are so ignorant they don't even understand. They don't even bother to read about all the failed attempts of socialism in the past

Stop stressing about the future. None of this is any more scary than 3 months ago when everyone was saying, "Holy shit, look at this virus - I think the world is going to end".

I'm gonna pull my "I'm older than you" card - by the time you get to 33, you've seen enough "the world is gonna end!" events that you stop taking it so seriously and you realise everything always turns out ok. Shit I've seen in my lifetime:
- AIDS crisis of the 80's/90's (everyone thought AIDS was gonna kill everyone)
- Millenium bug/Y2K bug (everyone legit thought the world was gonna end)
- SARS (everyone freaked out just like corona)
- 2012 phenomenon (again, everyone legit thought the world was going to end - people were buying guns, stocking up on food, building "panic rooms" and shit).
- 9/11 (everyone thought terrorists would kill us all)
- 2008 global financial crisis (everyone thought we were all gonna be homeless and die)
- 2011 recession (same shit)
- All the feminism/lefist bullshit over the last 10 years (oh fuck we're all gonna go to jail for hitting on girls)
- Corona bullshit and all the fear bullshit over it + lockdown hysteria
- Roosh V/Victor Pride/RSD/most pickup artists shutting down or getting shut down (Oh fuck hitting on girls is going to become illegal and underground)
- etc

Go google some of that shit (it's likely stuff you've never even heard of) and you'll see that people legitimately thought the world was going to end. And here we are today and most of you haven't even fucking heard of most of the things on that list. In 20 years the next generation are going to say to you, "COVID and race riots, what the fuck are you talking about, boomer?"

By the time you've been through a bunch of this shit, you realise; everything always works out.

Just chill, stay in your home, and I absolutely promise you, Everything will be ok in time. Give it a month (or two) and you'll forget this was even such a big deal.

In the mean time; be as productive as you can be while staying safe (same shit we were saying during virus lockdown).

An incase you're about to say, "But Andy, this is different!!!!!" No, it fucking isn't. People said "This is different!!!!!!!" for literally EVERYTHING on the list above. And none of it fucking mattered. The world kept on turning.

COVID and race riots don't matter jack shit. Live your life, work on your goals, ignore what the irrational masses are doing.

You're better than them.

I agree that alarmism doesn’t help, but neither does ignoring the situation and assuming everything will be back to normal shortly. I think there is a risk of living in a high-rent urban area, but not being able to enjoy any benefits of urban life with the lockdowns and civil unrest. Being in a rough spot socially, mentally, and economically doesn’t help when it comes to dating.

Simply moving to somewhere like Austin, Texas instead of NYC could be a huge improvement in quality of life over the next year or so. Gyms in Florida and Texas opened a few weeks ago, gyms in my area of NY won’t open for 2 more months, NYC probably longer. Most people around here are wearing masks and are on edge in public, but that’s not the case in other places. So decisions like Calvin Klein Fine is discussing do have an impact on our lives.

I think it's worth discussing these potential impacts and if our strategies may need to change so we're in the best position for success.

Here's a proactive strategy.

Secure an airbnb for three months in the city.

I guarantee you can negotiate a sick deal right now because these dudes are desperate to fill out their property. Most of them overleveraged themselves and have no way to pay it since no one wants to get in.

This same idea by the way can work everywhere. Not just NY.

I might look into that

Yeah so AirBnBs are largely illegal in NYC, I know, I got kicked out of one when I first moved here. I also got off a call with my landlord saying if I cannot find replacement for roommate (which is going to be hell to do) by end of June, I either have to renew paying the whole rent of the apartment or I will have to look elsewhere. So in all likelihood, I am not renewing my lease but as much as I hate to be a fucking snob, god I do not want to move to the fucking south.

No offense but the self-righteous religious bullshit of southern cities, given that I just moved out of Atlanta a few years ago and was rich yet miserable there, wears on you. Every girl that looks halfway decent in her twenties is a fucking bible thumper, casual sex is less accepted and you feel like you are in the fucking Middle East culturally, and everyone is hyper-cliquish only sticking to high school and college friends.

Moving to NYC gave me a social life and friends to have. I experienced more success with women despite being slightly more chubby, no telling how well I can do if I continue to lose weight. The parties were amazing and so were the people I met.

No other city can match this, none. I cannot deal with bible thumpers, morally self-righteous fucks, and the marriage and kids by 30 lifestyle which is not at all the case in NYC.

I will not be renewing my lease but I will be looking for sweet deals elsewhere in the city, things might get better but my god, after really thinking about it, even Armageddon itself might not get me to go back to the bible thumping south. I love Christians and grew up reading the bible but I cannot live in the you're going to hell if you do not have a wife and kids by 30.