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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 28 Dec 2015 09:45 #233711

Do you really think they will ever study a men who fap daily to porn and compare his hormones to a guy thats on a no fap thing? If you really think they will ever study that you are a funny person.
Also first off all if you believe in studies you are a complete joke.
Because like 99% studies are bullshit and there were no studies at all. And also most studies they preach are completely false, bullshit, lie, nonsense.
For example how many people are dead because of smoking cigarettes.
How the fuck are they gonna study that? How do they know someone died because he was a smoker. Bullshit.
Also, the only study i will ever need is my own experience.
Im glad you found what works for you in terms of this masturbation thing. I found that im the best when i dont masturbate at all. It just makes me hungry and motivated and gives me energy to go after what i want in life.
I already said this thing may be different for people. We gotta find what works for each of us.

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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 28 Dec 2015 09:57 #233714

i have not enough experience to give an answer to this, but i wanted to add another question to those who say to stop fapping: if u dont have real sex or just have sex very rarely, it is better to fap sometimes (like once every 3-4 days) or just stop completely anyway, for weeks or months?

I add this thought: humans are, in history and in evolution, used to do sex and they never have long periods of no sex AND no fap. This makes me think that it could be bad to force months of complete stop of both, its something that naturally never happened. When i tried a complete stop for 2 weeks i actually felt worse, but this could be caused by other things happening in my life so i cant conclude anything.
Does anyone tried a long stop in fapping, without having sex in the while?

@GLW you are right about the lack of scientific evidence in many cases, but that's almost always true in medicine and they often put the word "scientific" on methods which are not science at all, but that's a long story and would fuck up the thread. I dont blame them too much, we have to accept that the human body is too complex for us be be threated in a real scientific manner, at least in most cases, and keep going with more "vague" opinions

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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 28 Dec 2015 13:18 #233733

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GODOFROIDZ wrote: Do you really think they will ever study a men who fap daily to porn and compare his hormones to a guy thats on a no fap thing? If you really think they will ever study that you are a funny person.
Also first off all if you believe in studies you are a complete joke. Lol science isn't a joke dude.
Because like 99% studies are bullshit and there were no studies at all. And also most studies they preach are completely false, bullshit, lie, nonsense. No some of them are. It just takes a scientific mind built by a few years in university or talking to other scientific types and gaining a gauge in the field.
For example how many people are dead because of smoking cigarettes.
How the fuck are they gonna study that? How do they know someone died because he was a smoker. Bullshit. It's actually super simple: They collect data about rates of let's say mortality about X population who smokes, then do the same with X population who doesn't smoke. They repeat that over and over, while at the same time collecting data about smoking habits say number and frequency. Then they start to understand the correlation and from there they determine causation. In this case they did it with in vitro studies on lung tissue subjected to cigarette smoke and showed that it caused damages which could quiet quickly reach an irreparable level.
Also, the only study i will ever need is my own experience.
Im glad you found what works for you in terms of this masturbation thing. I found that im the best when i dont masturbate at all. It just makes me hungry and motivated and gives me energy to go after what i want in life.
I already said this thing may be different for people. We gotta find what works for each of us.


The scientific method is actually what they aimed to do. I read a private article by one of the nofap researchers which stated they set up a study and had everything in place but they pulled the pin because they couldn't find enough people in the demographic who didn't masturbate or watch porn.

Since we can't really apply scientific fact to this topic I'd prefer to apply scientific reasoning. So far only philosophical reasoning has been applied which I am confused by. Does your body produce more sperm the more you cum, or the less? The answer is resoundingly the more. Now does your body produce testosterone in proportion to sperm? Answer that question, that's my whole case.

@geppetto I would recommend masturbating every day at the time you normally game. So if you game at 10pm at night masturbate then or as close to on non-game nights. That way you'll train your libido to rare up at that time. It works.
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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 28 Dec 2015 15:57 #233744

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No emotional connection = bad sex.

That's weird to lose your virginity to a woman you don't like. I lost my virginity to my first gf and the sex was awesome. Ok maybe not exactly the first time because I was so excited that I finished probably in under 30 sec... But it was still a positive experience.

First time I had a problem with sex was with my 5th girl because she was so cold and mean to me. My 6th girl was exactly the same story. 8th idem. But 9 was nice and liked me so the sex was good.

Etc.
Only trust your own experience.

Every beginner's question has a simple answer : go date 100 girls and you will have your answer. Stop asking stupid questions ; that's what girls do.


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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 28 Dec 2015 16:52 #233751

Good point made by Leopard.
The most amazing thing in sex is if there is an emotional connection between the two.
Also id point out that calling a women flesh is a huge mistake. Look at them as human beings, the approach will be a lot different. But its hard, or close to impossible to look at the women as a human being if you are a porn fapper. Just like a bad computer that has viruses, your brain is burned.

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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 29 Dec 2015 10:41 #233809

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Maybe you're asexual DB?

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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 29 Dec 2015 22:44 #233847

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But how could you wait until 26 before even masturbating/getting an orgasm ?

I started fapping at 14 lol. Never have been more than 3 weeks without orgasm.
Only trust your own experience.

Every beginner's question has a simple answer : go date 100 girls and you will have your answer. Stop asking stupid questions ; that's what girls do.


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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 30 Dec 2015 01:40 #233855

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"...significantly less desire for sex with a partner, lower sexual arousability, and lower sexual excitation but did not differ consistently from non-asexuals in their sexual inhibition scores or their desire to masturbate"

The key characteristic of asexuals isn't lack of sexual desire, it's lack of sexual desire towards others.

Having said that though the first ~12 times I had sex I couldn't cum from the sex and had to have the girl blow me/lick my balls while I jacked off into her mouth/over her face. Take this as you will: for me the factor which allowed me release was being stoned and having sex, because I finally completely relaxed with a girl and was present to the moment.

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Sex with Real Flesh n Blood Women vs. fapping to Porn 30 Dec 2015 04:24 #233873

DB, for me the reasons are: validation, novelty (being with a girl of a race or type you haven't been with before), fun, challenge, and the hope that I'll eventually meet someone who impresses me that I really click with.

Or sometimes I'll be a scumbag and get with a chick just because I can, especially if it's in competition with another dude, that's always fun.

Porn is porn, it's what you fap to, but it can't give any of the above things in a real sense.
Hope that provides some insight, I've gone through phases where I feel the same as you do in the original post. I use those times to really focus on self improvement and using my free time to enjoy other things in life.

(edit - all this is based on getting with women that I find attractive, getting with kinda meh-ish women isn't rewarding at all)
Stay hungry, never stop improving.

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