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You may have problems performing with real women BECAUSE you fap to porn. Women cannot measure up to the constant novelty and stimulation of internet pornography. Erectile Dysfunction and extreme fetishes have been known to develop from porn use, and to resolve themselves once in recovery.
for a supportive forum of people who are trying to stop masturbating to pornography in an effort to improve their depression, self-esteem, anxiety, brain fog, social anxiety, erectile dysfunction, etc.
I've been a part of the community for quite a long time, and my own experiences with NOFAP are amazing. When my hormones begin to balance and I stop flooding my brain with dopamine and norepinepherine from internet porn, I become a different person. My voice drops, I become more confident, open and extroverted. My depression and generalized anxiety ease up. And women become fucking sexy - I go from having trouble ejaculating with beautiful women to having issues of being TOO EXCITED.
Also, being with real women causes different chemical reactions in the brain that just do not happen with pornography. With a properly functioning brain (one not fucked up by fapping to porn every day), sex and orgasm with a flesh-and-blood woman produces oxytocin, a bonding/feel-good hormone that offsets the huge dopamine rush and drop from male orgasm (which tends to leave men lethargic, tired, depressed, etc).
Sex with a women is physical, emotional and spiritual connection between the two. Where fapping is just pure waste of energy where you end up exhausted. Flashlight is pure garbage same as fapping.
It took me many months if not a year failing to quit masturbation and porn. But i finally managed to quit it once for like 5 months and i cant even explain in words but i changed and im a new person, better version of me.
Then again i tried how will fapping feel and porn (bad move) and soon again i got hooked to porn and jerk of daily and i just ended up wasting my energy on porn once again and was unmotivated and completely uninterested to real life women.
Now i quited porn and fapping again. Its actually very easy for me now, all i have to do is to make a decision and thats it.
And i feel so much better not fapping at all. Ill probably never fap again, but hey its just me, i found what works for me, maybe we are not the same.
But if you are watching porn and masturbating id highly recommend you quit it and see how do you feel when you stay away from it. But remember, it takes months to see the real changes.
And from your posts i can see some really unhealthy way of thinking honestly.
Deep down a man knows porn addiction is nothing compared to the real thing. Your instincts make you feel guilty every time you do it. You know this.
why do guys go through so much shit to sleep with real women when they can just fap to porn?
Because as a former chronic masturbator and recovering porn addict who used to orgasm 5-12 times a day, porn DESTROYS your sex drive, leaves you
an anxious wreck with small muscles who can't pull girls
, and fucks up your social life and how you come across and will always leave you wondering why some guys seem to pull girls when you don't.
It lowers T levels, it's not even real intimacy (it's not all just about getting off in a hole, you know), and quite frankly anybody who uses it is a loser. Literally. It makes you lose at life.
Ask me how I know.
Porn is the worst thing a man can get himself involved in. It's no different than meth. It is not only addictive but since humans are highly sexual creatures it fucks up EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE and it is fucking up our new generations of young men who can't get it up and who can't fuck girls and who are gay little pansy pussies.
I didn't finish reading the other replies, but your problem is normal. I had it too. The first couple of times sex didn't really feel like anything, and I only managed to cum into my 2nd chick after a lot of focus. This is partly to do with porn, but partly to sexual anxiety, which I'm 100% sure you have even if you currently lack the introspection to recognize the feeling as such. Sometimes I still can't cum with a real chick if I've been fapping too much.
It's simply different. When you're with yourself, you're gonna be at your most comfortable, you have access to all kinds of porn and you know exactly what turns you on. The chick doesn't -- unless you tell her very specifically what to do.
What I can tell you is that it makes ya feel good. Not just for the moment, but afterwards as well. We're programmed to do it. It's in our nature. It's like an anti-depressant.
Imagine a kid who's never had chocolate before -- like some of those kids in 3rd word countries. So if you ask them which is better, a banana or a chocolate bar, they can't know the answer. They can't imagine what chocolate tastes like. Currently you only have one bad sexual experience with a real live partner -- similarly you can't really know what you're missing as of yet.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
Hey OP. You owe it to yourself to do no FAP/no porn. It can really affect men in physical, mental and spiritual ways. Why not give youraelf a chance to enjoy some real women. Sex gets better in time and trust me its more fun in more just physical ways. You
Deltsbrah wrote: I have been struggling with this ever since i lost my virginity. Long story short I was a 30yr old virgin until I lost it a a few months ago. But the whole thing was very underwhelming and boring. Couldn't even get aroused even though she was objectively attractive. Regardless to say i did not finish.. not even once in the 3-5 times i tried it.
So been thinking if sex with a real life flesh and blood girl is all that different or better than just fapping to live-action porn. tried asking me friends but most of them are virgins or guys who got married after having 1-2 girlfriends so they weren't much help.
What am i missing here? why do guys go through so much shit to sleep with real women when they can just fap to porn?
Well first of all you need to have sex a few more times before replacing sex with masturbation.
Jacking off and watching porn is simply an way easier alternative to satisfied your needs...
Sleeping with girls is fun once you stop taking things so seriously and learn how to enjoy yourself.
You actually have both. Have sex with girls and then have them jerk you off haha.
I actually agree with all of the advice for the most part, the one caveat being that there is no scientific evidence to support masturbation and/or porn ruining peoples sex drive. There is anecdotal evidence of chronic masturbators doing so as there is likewise chronic celibates, however pointing that fact out gets you banned on their forums. Anyway for someone who actually gets laid fairly consistently and/or needs high test for other things superfap would be better. It makes a shit load more sense and actually has science to back it up. As well as the fact a few high functioning individuals back it up (Kanye, Jamie Lewis, etc) vs nofap which has the redpill....
Ok to preempt the two replies I'm going to get please post ONE study that shows watching porn has ill effect. A study. Not a TED talk, not that yourbrainonporn website, a study. If your 'study' is a magazine article I shall reply with a link to dianetics because clearly your scientific mind can handle no more. Also ILL effect. Not just dopamine release, which drugs also do and drugs are bad! So does a massage, sport, eating healthy... see how that logic doesn't fly? Or that retarded Japanese 9 days nofap experiment. Anyone who posts that clearly hasn't actually read the experiment or investigated the validity to even the extent of finding out why the researchers didn't consider the spike significant.
Second I'm not wrong because 'experts' disagree with me. Experts disagree with us on a lot of things. Experts consider PE impossible. Experts consider cholesterol bad and plant fat good. Experts are very often those who watch and not those who do. I actually put my balls on the line 5 nights a week, hit the gym 6-7 times a week and do PE 5-6 days a week. I know for a fact having done two separate long runs of nofap+noporn, nofap alone, noporn alone and many shorter runs of the lot that superfap works the best FOR ME. It may not for you but if you're actually someone who enjoys pussy and does get laid it may be worth trying out. I know doing 2 a day training and squats every day for months wouldn't have been possible without hitting it in the bathroom and fucking my girlfriend daily. I know that the amount I pull is more or less unchanged but the quality goes up when I masturbate because I drop off a whole heap of neediness AND am no longer horny enough to fuck the 7's.
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