TOPIC: RSD Tyler makes a guest appearance on Elliot hulse

I personally think what tyler teaches is a load of shit riddled with to much over analzation and mental masturbation. Just look out there forum, its filled with confused and brainwashed unersexed men. I've read plenty of reports of people get psychologically fucked up by there stuff. That said I still do think there instructors do get laid and aren't just purley internet marketers that don't have sex lives. They have all the infields and hotseat footage as proof they get laid, unless they managed to fake the hours of footage they show at those events but I doubt they would waste the money on it. Most of they're instructors are above average in looks and style and have tremendous social freedom(they're know to approaches hundreds of girls per week.)

The thing is they think its because of the stupid quackery that they teach that gets them laid, when all they really Do is screen out girls that are into them. They defintley dont consistenlty Bang stunners like tthey claim.

zinger wrote: I personally think what tyler teaches is a load of shit riddled with to much over analzation and mental masturbation. Just look out there forum, its filled with confused and brainwashed unersexed men. I've read plenty of reports of people get psychologically fucked up by there stuff. That said I still do think there instructors do get laid and aren't just purley internet marketers that don't have sex lives. They have all the infields and hotseat footage as proof they get laid, unless they managed to fake the hours of footage they show at those events but I doubt they would waste the money on it. Most of they're instructors are above average in looks and style and have tremendous social freedom(they're know to approaches hundreds of girls per week.)

The thing is they think its because of the stupid quackery that they teach that gets them laid, when all they really Do is screen out girls that are into them. They defintley dont consistenlty Bang stunners like tthey claim.

I can actually attest to this. I try not to ever watch their videos anymore unless I am in a healthy state of mind and/or just had sex. It is only good in very small doses.

Back in the day, I watched their shit all the time. It really fucked me up. I didn't get laid AT ALL. I finally decided one day to stop reading all PUA material. suddenly I started to become normal again and after about 3-4 months of not reading anything pickup related I started to have success and having sex with women.

They have some good stuff, but I also think that part of it really hammers into your head that you "need" their material. that's what creates so much of their success, is that you basically start to believe you suck with women and the mechanics and complexity of it all screws you over.

When I discovered Good Looking Loser it was a breath of fresh air for me. Only thing I will read this days consistently.

I like some of Tyler's videos on success and work ethics, but when he talks about women a lot of what he says is bullshit

I also hate all the mental masturbation that RSD tries to preach and i completely stopped watching their videos and reading their forums.

That being said they did actually motivate me enough TO START GOING OUT. Despite him borderline scamming his followers and probably having some sociopathic tendencies look at him; he started with nothing, was ugly/skinny short ginger and he pushed trough. Can you imagine how many times he had been rejected and he kept on going ? I can actually respect that.

Am not even saying that he gets laid like some members here but just playing numbers game he must have pretty decent lay-count by now.

I really love the GLL approach to "pickup" (look good + put in the numbers = get laid). And I get that it goes against much of the traditional "PUA" stuff involving routines and shit. However, Tyler really has some excellent advice to offer that aligns with the stuff that is taught here. Have you guys ever actually watched some of his videos, or are many of you just assuming Tyler = PUA = too much over analyzation?

Because in all honesty the basics of his teachings are "approach a lot of girls and you will come to find that some of them will like to fuck." He just doesn't call it "sexually available" like on here.

I don't know why guys would hate on his teachings. He is a very experienced guy explaining the inner workings of his mind just like Chris and Scotty do here in GLL.

if you're watching videos other than GLL and a couple others (boytoy etc) then you're doing it wrong anyway.. this site is about action, go out there and start speaking to girls, there is NO SUBSTITUTE.

^^^ Truth. However, there are some excellent learning resources on YouTube which I enjoy watching while I'm at home (Tyler's videos being one of them). Nothing wrong with learning stuff then going and applying it in the real world...so long as you're actually doing the "take action" part. This is the same thing as learning about bodybuilding or music or whatever and then going and applying those things that you learned in the real world.

I got somewhat involved with RSD stuff along with alot of the Routine Based pua and barley got any Action. Then i found this. Site and started getting results.

Theyre stuff resonates with some people, but confuses alot of other people.

aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-rsd-escape-story.html?m=1

puajackharkness.wordpress.com/2012/08/18...ics-from-an-insider/

Here are Guys that were around These so called "experts" for years.

I've had my small competitions with Tyler in Miami. He's extremely good. His infield videos are hyped up cause he does get rejected a lot but his approaches are awesome. I literally saw him climb up on a table to get over a crowd to approach a girl.

I'm not going to hate, he's also changed my life just as GLL has.

The reason I really wanted to have Chris´s take on this is because I suppose he has to have some backround information about the company/the instructors. I know that Chris is bashing some of the concepts they advocate in his articles (the ones I have in mind are "Do what you want >Don´t be reactive" and the other is something about "Being the CEO" and also "Comming from the buyers frame")
As far as his (Tylers) lay-count goeas, he always comes up with different numbers and he is telling specific stories and blowing them up/hyping them to get people to belive alle the shit he´s preaching and taking bootcamps. Here is an article where the dude says Tyler got 100 lays in 10 years doing pick up!!! www.personalpowermeditation.com/forum/so...-to-an-rsd-hot-seat/

Thats a horrible quote, especially when you concider he´s done nothing else then walking around and approaching woman most of the years. When you pay attention to the "real side" of things, not only the fluff and marketing it provides you can actually tell that 90% of "Game" (actually 90% of everything that is mainstream) is absolut bullshit and fluff.

Just think about how Neil Strauss in "The Game" says that Tyler is this sociopathic, calculated womanizer and whith his analitical power and manipulation tactics gets all girls to sleep with him, yet at the end of the book he says that Tyler hadn´t had sex in 3 months. The same goes for Neil Strauss himself, who´s extremly confident in his new abilities to get girls number (hehe) and then starts teaching students with Mystery while he didnt´had any sex from cold approach and as far as I recall not even get a kiss from a girl.

Also most of the Instructor are very good looking and (with maybe the exception of Tyler) at least above average. So yeah having the looks and being able to hit on girls Im pretty sure most of the instructors get a lot of action. Also in the book "Johnnys Journey" from Johnny Anti-PUA and Aaron Sleazy, Johnny claims that Jeffy has a high lay-count, "but is also known to fuck a lot of fatties."
The approach videos are 90% bullshit, you never see them get rejectet and Im pretty sure today that alot of them are staged.
You can even hear Tyler addmitting that looks do matter when you listen what he says between the lines. Once he said that he and his friend took two girls to a steak house and one girl called him "dumb" for eating a steak and not a pizza (probably a very smart and high-quality girl). And he said something like "what she doesnt realize is that if I wouldn´t pay attention to my nutrition and work out you [the girl] wouldn´t be sitting here with us."

So yeah buying girls food and being in a somewhat good shape maybe gets you the girl after a few dates..


However the reason Im kind of confused about "game" is because besides physical attributes I think you behavior can have a huge effect on (some) girls. Once I was in a club and did like a casual approach on two girls who were dancing. They kind of got toghether and wanted to get away from me. After that I tried out somthing Ive seen in a Tyler video, where he gets to the girl, takes her close to him and screams and the other girl telling her to fuck off. Now I did the same thing, grabbing the hand of the one girl (both super hot btw) taking her close to me and telling her shit like "tell your friend to fuck off, seriously fuck off, shes my new girlfriend now." (in a jocking way of course) after that the girls were all over me and didnt want me to leave anymore, I also got physical with the one girls. The same goes when Im in a really good and happy mood (what they would would call "in state") I usually get way more eye-conact, smiles etc. from girls. Once I was really high energy in the club and started really letting go, girls even approached me to dance with them etc.
So this is why I believe that girls do sometimes test you if you are persistent enough, and also that when you act funny and "alpha" and let go of your self-image that you can get girls and equalise your looks a little or get them attracted to you with this things. However I don´t have that much experience so I can´t confirm it 100%.

As far as the videos goes I would recommend anyone to watch this shit. Its 99% mental masturbation, and when I watch Tylers shit I usually get in a really weird and negative headspace, mostly because he has an ego about being "the damaged guy" and with that tells a lot of negative stuff in his videos, seeing himself as a victim of life. The titles of the videos are the absolute worst in my opinion. "6 Secrets to social calibration", "3 Steps to Never Run out of Things to Say!" and other shit like that or my absolute favorite "Tylers EPIC RANT On What Woman REALLY Want" I mean.. Come on..

Karoplayer wrote: The reason I really wanted to have Chris´s take on this is because I suppose he has to have some backround information about the company/the instructors. I know that Chris is bashing some of the concepts they advocate in his articles (the ones I have in mind are "Do what you want >Don´t be reactive" and the other is something about "Being the CEO" and also "Comming from the buyers frame")
As far as his (Tylers) lay-count goeas, he always comes up with different numbers and he is telling specific stories and blowing them up/hyping them to get people to belive alle the shit he´s preaching and taking bootcamps. Here is an article where the dude says Tyler got 100 lays in 10 years doing pick up!!! www.personalpowermeditation.com/forum/so...-to-an-rsd-hot-seat/

Thats a horrible quote, especially when you concider he´s done nothing else then walking around and approaching woman most of the years. When you pay attention to the "real side" of things, not only the fluff and marketing it provides you can actually tell that 90% of "Game" (actually 90% of everything that is mainstream) is absolut bullshit and fluff.

Just think about how Neil Strauss in "The Game" says that Tyler is this sociopathic, calculated womanizer and whith his analitical power and manipulation tactics gets all girls to sleep with him, yet at the end of the book he says that Tyler hadn´t had sex in 3 months. The same goes for Neil Strauss himself, who´s extremly confident in his new abilities to get girls number (hehe) and then starts teaching students with Mystery while he didnt´had any sex from cold approach and as far as I recall not even get a kiss from a girl.

Also most of the Instructor are very good looking and (with maybe the exception of Tyler) at least above average. So yeah having the looks and being able to hit on girls Im pretty sure most of the instructors get a lot of action. Also in the book "Johnnys Journey" from Johnny Anti-PUA and Aaron Sleazy, Johnny claims that Jeffy has a high lay-count, "but is also known to fuck a lot of fatties."
The approach videos are 90% bullshit, you never see them get rejectet and Im pretty sure today that alot of them are staged.
You can even hear Tyler addmitting that looks do matter when you listen what he says between the lines. Once he said that he and his friend took two girls to a steak house and one girl called him "dumb" for eating a steak and not a pizza (probably a very smart and high-quality girl). And he said something like "what she doesnt realize is that if I wouldn´t pay attention to my nutrition and work out you [the girl] wouldn´t be sitting here with us."

So yeah buying girls food and being in a somewhat good shape maybe gets you the girl after a few dates..


However the reason Im kind of confused about "game" is because besides physical attributes I think you behavior can have a huge effect on (some) girls. Once I was in a club and did like a casual approach on two girls who were dancing. They kind of got toghether and wanted to get away from me. After that I tried out somthing Ive seen in a Tyler video, where he gets to the girl, takes her close to him and screams and the other girl telling her to fuck off. Now I did the same thing, grabbing the hand of the one girl (both super hot btw) taking her close to me and telling her shit like "tell your friend to fuck off, seriously fuck off, shes my new girlfriend now." (in a jocking way of course) after that the girls were all over me and didnt want me to leave anymore, I also got physical with the one girls. The same goes when Im in a really good and happy mood (what they would would call "in state") I usually get way more eye-conact, smiles etc. from girls. Once I was really high energy in the club and started really letting go, girls even approached me to dance with them etc.
So this is why I believe that girls do sometimes test you if you are persistent enough, and also that when you act funny and "alpha" and let go of your self-image that you can get girls and equalise your looks a little or get them attracted to you with this things. However I don´t have that much experience so I can´t confirm it 100%.

As far as the videos goes I would recommend anyone to watch this shit. Its 99% mental masturbation, and when I watch Tylers shit I usually get in a really weird and negative headspace, mostly because he has an ego about being "the damaged guy" and with that tells a lot of negative stuff in his videos, seeing himself as a victim of life. The titles of the videos are the absolute worst in my opinion. "6 Secrets to social calibration", "3 Steps to Never Run out of Things to Say!" and other shit like that or my absolute favorite "Tylers EPIC RANT On What Woman REALLY Want" I mean.. Come on..

Tyler lies about a lot of stuff. He has given alot of different numbers on his laycount he stated he reach 75 lays back in 2004 then 150 then on the Barry kirley show 2011(podcast from a friend of nichlous the owner of puahate.) He said he had 70. Then more recently(2013)a ex intern named jumulv said his lay count was under the 50-75 range, so well probably never know for sure. There have been threads that have Asked about tyler laycount that almost get insta deleted, which is a red flag. Julian stated his was about between 100-200 on reddit After 7 years, which is believable, he is 6'2 goodlooking and dresses like a douchbag. saw him in action down at drai's didn't see him get any pulls but he seemed decent, did a lot of flash game though I have also seen Todd in Vegas and his assistant instructor getting blown out a lot. . You probably won't get Chris replying about specfic pua because he does not bash them, with good reason to, it would send a lot of negativity towards this sites and start a lot of shit between him and different pua's.
I pretty sure he has seen him in action though, he has seen a lot of the mainstream companies in action and know that the majority of these guys don't get laid as often as they claim or atleast banging hot girls.

www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/get-laid/pua-scam