TOPIC: situation with depression is desperate and i keep doing Tinder experiments

Even if Tinder is not very popular here in Italy i keep doing experiments, i created a fake profile with pictures of this model







i received 25 matches, all the girls were interested, 2 girls, (one aged 37 years old) were interested in immediate sex. I feel i completely lost my dignity as a human being because i've chased girls who refused my love and attention because i'm not attractive
My depression is very worse, i keep thinking that i will never be happy because i was born with this looks, i have negative feelings and hatred toward woman because they treat like a human waste because i have bad genetics and they would've kissed my ass if i were born with good facial features



i'm alone because of my facial featured and i cant accept that, my bad genes are my sexless destiny

i keep thinking about suicide, i already have professional help and take meds regularly

what's worse is that i want to max myself just like you guys, since I'm skinny fat i want to get ripped to see how much attractiveness i gain, maybe i become decent or cute if i get ripped, after all even the model made an effort to get some muscle but it's very very hard to lift when brain is thinking fast about a lot of stuff



I feel deep hate whenever i see a girl because they're the source of my problem, i wouldn't mind being unattractive if they didn't reject me and humiliate me when i was a teen

I developed bipolar disorder and borderline disorder when i was 15 when the cute girl i fell in love with told a friend of mine "i won't date him hes ugly", the fact that i'm brown didn't help too

Some things that happen to you when you're a teen can ruin adult life



i don't ask you for a solution because no one has a solution, i just need your empathy, i wanted to share what i feel with you, i'm alone here, no one to talk to about this stuff
i know you find my ideas strange, thats normal, it means you don't have mood disorders like me, but the pain i feel is very real

I've gone through all that you're going through. You are not alone in having these issues. Rest assured you can get better as long as you follow this site. I suggest you check out my thread "2 Years Of GLL / My Life Story". It's stickied in the Members' Section because I guess some people thought it was inspirational.

You didn't ask for a solution, but it took me 4 years to completely transform my physique from a 250lb fat fuck that no girl would be attracted to, to what I look like now, and I look better than this model. I got 25 matches on my first day on Tinder and my pics are worse than this.

Feel free to PM me if you ever need someone to talk to about anything.

Watch this video - changed my perception on pretty much everything.

Long term habit change is not the result of discipline, it is the result of changing the self-image. Its easy to think that because we're feeling oain and hardship that we're making progress but I don't think it's totally necessary.

Or as chris says the only thing that really matters is hard work. My card says Im a confident cocky but also a hard worker. Going to read it everyday until I truly believe it.

Hey,
I cant give you better advice than you can find online regarding improving your physique/looks, but you really need to change your attitude regarding life and girls.

i'm alone because of my facial featured and i cant accept that, my bad genes are my sexless destiny

i keep thinking about suicide, i already have professional help and take meds regularly

what's worse is that i want to max myself just like you guys, since I'm skinny fat i want to get ripped to see how much attractiveness i gain, maybe i become decent or cute if i get ripped, after all even the model made an effort to get some muscle but it's very very hard to lift when brain is thinking fast about a lot of stuff

I feel deep hate whenever i see a girl because they're the source of my problem, i wouldn't mind being unattractive if they didn't reject me and humiliate me when i was a teen

I can relate a bit to most of these points, In my mid-teens I suffered from depression, because I had almost zero contact with girls and if I did I got rejected.
I used to become very bitter after getting rejected and getting oneitis, but reading your thread I'm pretty sure you are not only getting rejected for your looks, but also for your attitude, girls just know if your depressed/insecure/bitter except when you're on drugs or the worlds greatest actor.
I've been balding since I was 18, now I basically have the choice between no hair and a buzzcut, that also sucks and will reduce my prospects with most women, but you have to play the hand you're dealt and do the best to get to your personal maximum, and most guys that are currently bad looking/not in shape(your picture is not high-res, but you don't look like either of these things) can with some work become above average, and that's all you need if you follow GLL/have game, you can also become more attractive than you look if you're rich/famous, but I think it'll be easier for you to get ripped .
More specific advice
1. Just regularly stick to lifting, it will improve your mood and confidence more than any existing meds, without any possible drawbacks.
2. Just accept that women are how they are, 95% are shallow(but we also judge them by their appearance, don't we?), you can't just base your self-worth around your success with women, else you're stuck in the vicious cycle you are right now, no confidence because no success with women => no women interested in you=> no confidence...
3. Just get something else to focus your mind on for the time being, I'm personally in Monkmode because of shitty logistics but even if I weren't I wouldn't make girls my main focus until I feel I have good odds, get some hobbies, improve your career or build something online, so that you also get some success from other avenues of life, that will improve your mood/confidence, just stick to realistic goals and accomplish them.

Good luck to you mate

Terminator wrote: I've gone through all that you're going through. You are not alone in having these issues. Rest assured you can get better as long as you follow this site. I suggest you check out my thread "2 Years Of GLL / My Life Story". It's stickied in the Members' Section because I guess some people thought it was inspirational.

So i'm not the only one with self body image issues, i think i'm the only one who has bipolar disorder and borderline disorder however

Everything is more difficult with mood disorders

30 matches on tinder is great, i wish i could achieve something like that, for me it's impossible to have even one match

since i'm not attractive i need to bring value, to say things, do things, try things, the attractive guy gets the girls without all this bullshit i've been through

i'll check out your thread!!

Dr3w wrote: Hey,
I cant give you better advice than you can find online regarding improving your physique/looks, but you really need to change your attitude regarding life and girls.

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I already know how to eat and lift, i only need to do it and think less, but my brain doesn't stop working on it's own

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I can relate a bit to most of these points, In my mid-teens I suffered from depression, because I had almost zero contact with girls and if I did I got rejected.
I used to become very bitter after getting rejected and getting oneitis

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I had oneitis too in my teens, girls would reject and i would keep "loving" them like a disgusting loser.
It was the most disgusting phase of my life, girl rejected for my facial features and kept trying and trying thinking that must be something wrong with my approach, nobody came and told me that i was being rejected for my genes

Now i live in Parma, near Milan, north Italy, but i grew up in south Italy a place where local don't like brown people, so not only the girls rejected me but they were also very harsh and racist, calling me ugly, nigger ecc., thats why i developed this fucked up personality


Your loosing some hair but you keep being positive, it means you're a guy with positive healthy attitude that wants to live, my brain doen't work like that thats why i need meds

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but reading your thread I'm pretty sure you are not only getting rejected for your looks, but also for your attitude, girls just know if your depressed/insecure/bitter except when you're on drugs or the worlds greatest actor.

Sorry but i have to disagree, if i was born with good genes and good facial aesthetics girl would give me their pussy no matter what approach i do and no matter what attitude i have

When i do tinder experiments with male model pictures like the guy above, i talk all kinds of shit to girls but they still give me their number and want to fuck me!

They just love to fuck with good looking guys, true love it's impossible for people who are not attractive, because if you're average you can't love the real girl you'd like to love, a beautiful girls perhaps, but you have to lower your standards

Real love is when you don't have to lower your standars and the people who usually don't have to lower their standard are the beautiful ones

No i really want to have sex and to be intimate with a woman but it's impossible for free, not because i'm a bad guy, not because i did something wrong, but because i don't have good facial aesthetics, if i was born like that male model above i would have 31 matches on tinder to try sex with and countless real life possibilities
This realisation give a lot of emotional pain, a pain so big i find it hard to deal with

Post pictures.

We're either going to confirm or deny this "not attractive" notion right now.

Thrice wrote: Everything is more difficult with mood disorders

I'm not saying it isn't. But you only have two options:

A) Complain about it
B ) Do something about it

I suggest you do the latter. Either improve your looks like I did or fix your mood disorders somehow.

Jake wrote: Post pictures.

We're either going to confirm or deny this "not attractive" notion right now.

being invisible to the opposite sex is enough proof, always rejected by the girls i like d in my teens, when you're attractive they'll let you know, when you're invisible you know you are unattractive to ugly

since i'm very sensitive about my body image i don't want people to "rate"me

Terminator wrote:

I suggest you do the latter. Either improve your looks like I did or fix your mood disorders somehow.

you can't just fix mood disorders, you have to live with them, depression is keeping me from going to the gym because i think my face is ugly so i will be able to have the girls i desire in my life even if i get ripped

i also have suicidal thoughts, specially if i do tinder experiments

I'll write one last reply, because I can at least empathize with your situation to an extent and because I feel the more seasoned members are getting a bit frustrated.
First of all there are tons of people in this forum who have improved their (sex)life by doing the stuff Chris has outlined and I'm willing to bet a few were even more unlucky in the genetics department than you, the least you could do would be to at least try to focus on improving your mood/mindset for a month and not obsess about girls constantly, treat it as an experiment.
This site from a GLL member has some great advice on battling various aspects of depression.
You keep talking about meds and as someone who has at least some knowledge/research regarding various antidepressants I would really recommend you to try to get off them(the site has some guides on that as well), EXCEPT Lithium because you also stated that you are bi-polar as well, I can tell you from many articles I've read that many of these meds don't really help some will even increase suicide rates in people that already think about it.
Lastly I can only recommend you look at some of the successes people here had, many of them started over 30 and still managed to get into great shape, got over any anxieties and fuck tons of hot girls, just FORCE yourself to do something productive every day even if it's hard and your mind tries to find reasons why you shouldn't even bother, you will only find success and happiness if you don't listen to your mind during this time.
I really hope your situation improves, but it's in your hand and no one elses.

Are you taking action bro?

Are you hitting on girls in person or online?

Are you working on becoming more attractive?

People who are depressed usually don't do jack shit tbh..