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I posted this in my workout journal as a note, but I feel it deserves it's own thread.
It was my second day of classes a few days ago. I’m gonna tell you all about my go-to move to get with girls in your class. I used this strategy last year and got with some HOT girls. I'm using at again now with some good results as well.
First you need the fundamentals. You need to have good social skills. Look good. And have a good identity. After that, you can focus on “techniques.” So as far as techniques go, here it is. To get with girls in your class, you want to make sure that you sit next to them right away. When you walk into class during the first week, find the hottest girl and sit next to her. Once everyone in the class gets used to sitting in a certain spot, that’s it. That’s the seating assignment for the entire year. So unless you sit next near the hot girl during the first week, you never will, and your opportunities to be social with her during class go out the window for the rest of the year.
I’m not gonna tell you how to flirt in this post as that subject could fill multiple books. For now I’m just gonna tell you about the technique I’ve been using to hook up with the hot girls in my class. This technique is specific for night classes. During class, flirt and chat a little bit. Don’t go too gamey. Being a bit gamey is fine if you’re at a club or bar or something, but in class it comes off a bit weird. Talk about normal stuff and joke around a bit. If you’ve got any good stories about cool stuff you’ve done, tell them. The first week, everyone is nervous about meeting new people. Take advantage of this and be the social guy.
Stay in your seat next to the hot girl and talk with everyone before the teacher arrives in class. Don’t get up from your chair, or you might lose it, but chat with the people around you, don’t just focus on talking to the hot girl. Talk to everyone. She’s not going anywhere so there’s no rush. Make sure you come off as the socially confident guy. One of the best ways to do this is the talk to multiple people at once. Start a conversation with someone and then bring others around your into the conversation.
You: So what’d you do over the summer?
Person 1: Blah blah blah.
You: Oh cool. (Turn to another person next to you.) Hey. What’s up. What about you? You get up to anything over the summer?
Person 2: I went to blah blah blah with my parents.
You: Oh damn. How was that? Do you travel a lot?
Person 2: We’ve been going there every summer since I was like 6. It was fun. We saw some relatives we have over there.
You: Okay. Nice. I was in blah blah blah a few months ago. It was amazing. Blah blah blah. (Back to person 1) What about you? You travel at all?
Obviously this isn’t a great example, but you get the idea. Talk to multiple people at once. Bring others into the conversation and you end up being the leader of a big group discussion. Being a leader is sexy to women. They like a guy who can hold court and control a large group.
Bring the hot girl into the conversation. Be interested and be interesting.
Now she sees you’re a cool, social guy. Work with her a bit during class. At the end of class say, “Here. Hold up. Walk with me.” Then walk her to her car. (If it’s a night class and the last class of the day). Now that you’ve established yourself as a cool guy there shouldn’t be any objections. Playful teasing and more personal questions are now appropriate.
Here’s what I did last night. The following conversation is gonna sound a bit gamey and not quite natural. I'm writing down what I remember from the conversation, but this isn't actually a word for word transcript, so that's why it sounds a bit gamey and fake. In real life, the conversation flowed much more naturally. Note the playful teasing interspersed with real "getting to know you" conversation. This builds attraction but also builds a connection.
I followed the method outlined. When class ended I said, “Alright. See ya. What are you up to? You heading home right now?”
Me: Possibly? Come on, it’s 9 o’clock on a Thursday… I guess you’re a bigger partier than I thought.
Her: Ha. You know nothing.
Me: Here, I’ll walk you to your car. Did you just quote Game of Thrones to me?
Her: Do I watch Game of Thrones?
Me: No. Did you quote Game of Thrones. There’s a redhead in the show and that’s like her catch-phrase. ‘You know nothing Jon Snow.’ So what else are you taking?
Her: French and Business Advising.
Me: That’s it? You know what they should teach you in Business Advising?
Me: To take more than two classes in college. That’s some solid business advice right there.
Her: Haha. I work a full time job.
Me: Oh. So is that what you do… when you’re not partying on a Thursday. But no, what kind of job is it?
Her: I work for a finance company.
Me: Okay. (At this point she got a text message and looked at her phone. When she put it down I said...) Ya. My parole officer makes me check in as well when I finish class. Trying to keep me away from bad influences. I don’t know what he’d say if he knew I was hanging out with you. So is this your first year?
Her: Ya. I graduated early.
Me: Okay. How old are you? Cause I’m gonna be honest if you’re only 14, my parole officer isn’t gonna be too happy.
Her: I’m actually only 12.
Me: Oh. Well that’s okay then. 12 is actually better than 14. If you were 14 the cops would be like, ‘What are you doing walking at night with a 14 year old?’ But if you’re 12, then they’d be like, “Oh that’s so nice of you walking with that little girl.” At a certain age it actually becomes reputable again to walk with a little girl at night.
By this point we’d reached her car. Usually this is where I'd make out with the girl. Unfortunately this time there was a cop car parked literally right next to her car with the cop still sitting inside. Usually when I do this, we’re all alone in the parking lot, so making out with the girl is easy at this point. You’d say, “Here. Give me your hand.” Then take her by the hand, push her against her car, and make out with her. I would have had no qualms about making out with her with the cop right next to us, but she probably would have, so instead I just got her number.
For everyone in high school and college, it’s still early in the school year. Take advantage of that and start implementing these strategies. The first few weeks can set the tone of the whole year.
ssk08 wrote: Just curious, when did you lose your virginity?
Nice post, although it might distract me making a "conversational/interaction plan", and make it look unnatural. I think some are born cool (with good social skills, early success, lost virginity pre-18 etc) whereas some are not.
You don't have to make a "conversational plan" if you think that'll distract you. The basics of this strategy are just to sit next to a hot girl. Talk to the people around you before class and lead the conversation by bringing more people into it. Walk her to her car at the end of class. Flirt while you walk. Make out with her.
I lost my virginity when I was 16, but that is by no means an indicator of my success of how cool I was. I definitely wasn't born with it. I probably had the worst social skills of anyone on this entire forum. (Possibly in the entire pickup community.) I say that completely seriously. I was one of those awkward guys who couldn't even hold up his end of a 30 second conversation with another guy. I had ZERO social skills. If someone didn't know any better they probably would have assumed was autistic or something (I'm not, but my social skills were around that level.) I had to fight for every inch. I would go out for hours at a time and approach women even before I even knew about the pickup community because I knew there had to be something I could do to improve my social skills. I probably approached 30+ women a day. I didn't get any better, but I kept approaching. This is how a normal interaction would go when I was trying to learn before the pickup community
Me: Hi. I'm Ethan. What's you're name?
Her: Hi. I'm Jessica.
Me: Where are you from?
Her: LA. originally.
Me: Do you have a job?
Her: Uh. No. I'm a student.
Me: Do you have any pets?
Her: Uhhhhh. No.
Me: What do you want to be when you grow up?
Her: .............. I have to go.
Me: Okay. Nice meeting you.
I probably had that exact conversation over 300 times. But I kept approaching. I knew there had to be something I could do to improve my social skills and figured if I just approached enough I would eventually "just figure it out."
That's why when I hear guys complaining all the time or posting up stupid shit it makes me mad. "How do I make sure girls don't reject me?" "How do I avoid getting in a fight?" "Girls don't want a short guy like me." "Help Asian Guy Alert" "No girls have responded to my texts. I think I'm done."
Are you fucking kidding me? They have everything handed to them and they're still making excuses. The fact is, those people don't want it bad enough. You need to want to more than anything. You need to want it more than you want to sleep. More than you want to eat. More than you want to breath. I once stayed up for three days straight with no sleep approaching because I was in Surfer's Paradise during Schoolies week (The Australian version of Spring Break). I knew that I wouldn't have an opportunity to practice like that any time again. I stayed up for THREE DAYS straight approaching girls because I didn't want to miss a single minute or a single opportunity to learn. That's how bad I wanted it.
Those guys who complain on the forum make me sick. I didn't have any forums. I didn't have anyone giving me advice. I didn't have any friends to turn to. I had me and the unwavering desire to get better.
Eventually I was online and I randomly came across a pickup opener. "Hey. I need to go in a second, but let me ask you a question. It's super important and could change the course of my entire life... Do you floss before or after you brush?" I left my house about 5 minutes after reading that opener to give it a try. When I used it for the first time, the girl burst out laughing and I knew there was something to it. I went back onto the website where I saw the opener and the guy had also mentioned the book The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed. I found it at my local bookstore and it was a god-send. It explained everything I wanted to know. It broke down everything into a method that I could understand. Where to stand. What to say. When to touch her. When to tease her. EVERYTHING that I'd spent the last few years trying to figure out on my own was right there in that book.
I continued to go out for hours at a time to practice, but now I had a method. When something didn't go right, I would analyze what happened and figure out why. Then I would do the exact same thing again with another women except this time I would make the adjustment. Again I was having the exact same conversations with hundreds of women, except this time it was working.
Up until this time, I didn't know there was a whole pickup community. I just assumed that I'd come across a random website that just happened to have a good opener and mentioned a good book.
Within about two months I was amazing. I didn't realize it at the time, but looking back I was probably better than most of the professional pickup coaches in the community. My general social skills were still a bit iffy, but on straight up cold approach I was untouchable. It was weird because for a while I was a huge dichotomy. I was world class when it came to flirting, but I still couldn't just chill out and talk to people. I remember after learning about the community I met up with a coach from a very well known company during a meet and greet. We talked for a bit and I really couldn't talk to him, but then he approached a group of women and got blown out. I then approached the same group and was making out with one of them in under 20 seconds.
Man, that sounds great, but you already have good looks(tall,etc) so the only problem for you was the social skills.
Even if your stories seems great and real, do you have proofs like videos or at least pictures with you and other chicks, like the slayers on the forum have? I think if you increase you credibility just a but, your website will rock.
blueman: I'm not super tall and I'm not exceptionally good looking. I know a lot of my stories are extraordinary, that's why if you read them you'll see that I DO post pictures to prove it.
zinger: It had nothing to do with confidence. It was all game. When you say the average social retard can manage to get laid if he approaches hundreds of women, you're partially right. However I think you're idea of a "social retard" and mine are a bit different. You're probably imagining a guy who's a bit shy, maybe a little awkward, who doesn't know how to flirt or escalate. I'm talking about someone who has absolutely no social skills and would seem borderline autistic to most people. That's where I was. I can't even begin to tell you how bad I was with basic human social interaction. But I clawed my way out by my fingernails. It seems that you didn't find pickup helpful and you don't believe in the concepts. I know for a fact that they work.
A lot of them are just internet marketers that greatly exaggerate their results. I'm not saying there aren't. But there are some legitimate people and techniques.
And beyond that, the fact is Chris is just a guy like you or me. Chris can be wrong about some things. (Yeah. I said it.) I can be wrong about things to. In fact, that's the kind of hero worship that Chris DOESN'T want. (Feel free to correct me if you do Chris.)
Chris tells people to look really good and hit on as many chicks as you can. That's solid advice that I don't dispute.
But it seems like you've made up your mind and nothing I say is going to change it.
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