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dc7 wrote: When I first started this, calling girls was gold. Nowadays, I have lost a lot of potential dates from millenials being gigantic pussies and freaking out when I call and thinking it's weird.
Now, the argument could be made that the chick wasn't down to begin with and texting wouldn't have resulted in a different outcome, but, just based on my experience in doing this at least a few thousand times, I am inclined to say that I have in fact lost some chicks due to the calling thing.
However, on the other side of the spectrum, I know for a fact with some other chicks (more mature ones) I stood out and absolutely increased my chances of them going out with me based on me calling them and having a conversation with them on the phone prior to meeting, which (for obvious reasons) increases the comfort factor of them feeling like they actually know you prior to meeting (especially important with online girls).
At the end of the day, I don't really know which you should do, as I always play it by ear now I do it instinctually based on my perception of the chick and what I think will work best for me.
I don't think it's a bad idea, but I think in some instances it is a good idea, in some instances it is a neutral idea and has zero bearing on the outcome, and in some instances it is a bad idea and weirds her out.
Is that stupid? Yes it is. But that's what kind of stupid shit our generation of degenerates has "evolved" into.
Such a good summary. Nails a weird angle of this madness
"Hey sexy bitch" sounds like an extreme measure of screening out girls who aren't DTF, easy lays. Even if your goal is quantity I wouldn't call her a bitch lol.
In the past decade, texting has definitely took over thecall culture.
I use phone calls more than usual for a few reasons. It helps me filter out excess girls and focus on the ones that are really down and chill to talk to
1. Screen out catfish. I've actually had a few super sketchy interactions even right before meetup. One time a dude actually answered the phone
2. Screen out awkward or socially pensive girls. If I can't have a decent convo with her on the phone or if she is afraid to talk then I'd rather not waste time and talk to one that is normal
3. Screen out girls who simply aren't interesting to talk to. Save you time and money on dates
4. Makes date convos easier knowing if she has a dry sense of humor
5. Just shows you aren't playing games. Girls actually tell me guys do the ghosting and in relationship window shopping/creeping online too
6. I got a deep ass voice and girls like that shit lol
If I can't connect with a girl through talking I don't want the sex no matter how hot she is. It depends on the feel of the texting. If we don't go back and forth much and she's really hot and doesn't seem like a loser I'll go straight for the date. If the texts are engaged and (... icon) back and forth, i'll ask wyd and "down to talk for a few?"
When I have over 2-3 solid fuckbuddies lined up, I do more screening because I don't have time for new girls. If I'm on a dry spell I do less calling and more quick dates. On average, I call about 70% of girls. If I just wanted to get my numbers up I would only call the sketch ones
Talking to girls isn't textbook rules everytime. You have to get a FEEL for what she wants and react to it
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Rousseau wrote: It depends on how old they are. If they're younger than 23-years-old, I wouldn't call them. If they're in the late twenties or older than you can call them.
18-year-olds will think you're a fuckin' weirdo.
Most girls in their mid to late 20s are comfortable enough with themselves at that point that they are able to mentally handle a phone call. They also realize at that point that they value attention/interactions a little more than when they perhaps took them for granted in their younger years. Every girl is different, and some remain immature twerps well into their 30s.
Young girls are more or less inundated with how simple technology has made their interactions for them these days - they can look at what they want, when they want, interact if they want... and face zero consequences if they don't.
Like another poster said I have likely lost a lot of chicks from trying to call and weirding them out. In retrospect some chicks I likely would've gotten with had I just stuck to casual and patient texting. You have to screen them out what they like, sometimes when I get a girls number I'll ask her straight up "so what do you like? do you prefer I text.... or are you the kind of girl who appreciates a call?"
You can also segue texting in the evening with simply seeing if they are around and not busy at that time, once they are replying and confirming they are doing fuck all - text them that you are doing something at the moment but ask if they are up for a phone call shortly? Some say yes and you can stop texting, call and get the date squared away easily from there.
In my experience it usually boils down to if there was actually any real interest at the time you met them or not. If there wasn't, slim chance any amount of bullshit is going to get you a reply or an answer to your call.
To reinforce - we are definitely fully immersed in a much different era now than we were 5 to 10 years ago. The tools of this generation are the ones that need to be respected, understood and utilized. Old school game doesn't fly in every situation anymore unfortunately, while some girls will appreciate it - others will be weirded out/offended by it and then that pussy is fucking closed for business. Play your cards safe but make sure you play em...
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