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Chris wrote a guide on how to call and text girls years ago. He hasn't touched the topic since then. He advised sending a ping text like "hey sexy bitch" and then calling the girl as soon as she texts back.
This has not been working for me at all it seems like. Maybe once in a blue moon.
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For a while I followed Chris's calling texting guide religiously. It rarely works.
I will text "hey sexy" etc. And if they text back I call. Most of the time they won't pickup or it will drop. They dont say "sorry I'm blah blah blah" like he says.
And they NEVER call back.
Some girls won't even respond to text after I call. It's fucking bizarre.
Are we really in an age where calling girls not only doesn't work anymore but it's considered weird creepy?
Or am I just running into a lot of unavailable girls who have soiled my perception?
It's like girls are so terrified of talking to you on the phone they will ghost forever just to avoid it. I've also been pranked more than a few times when calling. Girls have no fucking respect for calling anymore it seems like.
Please, experienced players, tell me what works for you. I hate hate hate the flaking and lack of pressure that setting plans over text provides.
I also do not use Snapchat or instagram but it seems like a lot of chicks almost prefer this to texting as well. I REALLY don't want to use these apps.
What's the truth? Does Chris guide work still? Is texting outdated? Do I have to use IG or Snap to get laid now? Is calling a girl you just met a big turnoff?
Chris guide is outdated but it does work if the girl actually finds that you have more going for you than she does herself (look good enough/good game/success) That would be the only time ive called or if I cold approached her and the vibe was good.
But in my honest opinion, just text/Snapchat. If she finds you attractive enough to want to fuck with you, she WILL answer your text OR call and she WILL meet up with you to fuck.
One hint to see If is she really into you is if She is making herself VERY available to you.
Example of what works for ME:
Hey this is Dee how’s it going
Her: blah blah blah or more blah blah blah
So when’s are u free?
Her: blah blah blah
Then I set shit up or use The “do you mind if I call you real quickly?” If she picks Then small talk into setting shit up. keep it brief though
if not just she will give excuse then proceed to set shit up by text. That’s simple
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My experience with calling girls have been good. The only time I ever call a girl is if I think she needs some encouragement to meet from online dating though. It isn't at all necessary and I don't encourage it - waste of time - if she wants to meet you, doesn't matter if you text or call.
Also, the reason why Chris' text works is because girls find him attractive. You can pretty much text a girl whatever if she's into you. Inversely, if the chick isn't into you not even Jesus can help you.
The best way to get laid is to max out your SMV. Post pictures of yourself + your style, a picture of your face, and a topless photo. If girls aren't meeting with you, it means they're not attracted to you.
When I first started this, calling girls was gold. Nowadays, I have lost a lot of potential dates from millenials being gigantic pussies and freaking out when I call and thinking it's weird.
Now, the argument could be made that the chick wasn't down to begin with and texting wouldn't have resulted in a different outcome, but, just based on my experience in doing this at least a few thousand times, I am inclined to say that I have in fact lost some chicks due to the calling thing.
However, on the other side of the spectrum, I know for a fact with some other chicks (more mature ones) I stood out and absolutely increased my chances of them going out with me based on me calling them and having a conversation with them on the phone prior to meeting, which (for obvious reasons) increases the comfort factor of them feeling like they actually know you prior to meeting (especially important with online girls).
At the end of the day, I don't really know which you should do, as I always play it by ear now I do it instinctually based on my perception of the chick and what I think will work best for me.
I don't think it's a bad idea, but I think in some instances it is a good idea, in some instances it is a neutral idea and has zero bearing on the outcome, and in some instances it is a bad idea and weirds her out.
Is that stupid? Yes it is. But that's what kind of stupid shit our generation of degenerates has "evolved" into.
In my experience it doesn't work at all. Although I only try calling when the girl ghosts when I try to get her out and of course she doesn't pick up. Obviously because she wasn't into me either way. So I suppose if I just tried calling and not texting I could have different results. But it really isn't considered normal anymore these days it seems.
Second the instagram thing, I'm now taking it really seriously now and hopefully it will pay dividends. Will it turn a lukewarm girl into an interested girl? That's probably the whole point of IG I suppose. It seems clear to me though that calling a girl generally doesn't have this effect
So do you guys get your meetups through text or do you play the Instagram/Snapchat game?
Personally if a chick asks about those things I will tell her no and get her number instead. I'm not down to play games or be #200 on her list of stupid pics she'll show her friends for 2 seconds and laugh at. I want to meet up.
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