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Okay so, this isn't going to look good so I'm just going to be fucking honest. Initially, I skipped the first two days of the program. I actually currently just finished day 14 of the program.
I KNOW I KNOW, "not very dedicated, how could you, you're not taking this seriously". I'm a naughty boy, I get it.
So, I'm not going to make excuses, but I did take the first two weeks seriously (except day 1 and 2). But as I worked through the program I realized how hard it is and that I need the community and comradery to push through. Because its getting fucking hard.
Anyways I did journal my first fourteen days. Here they are.
Ask 5 women for time.
I went out to a mall before work and had about an hour. I walked around for an hour and gave up. I bitched out. My excuse is that there wasn’t really attractive girls and mostly couples, kids, and older people. So I said fuckit, i’m going home. Old boomers and couples scare the fuck outta me. I feel they judge the hardest. Yeah a bad way to start off. No excuses next time.
The day after I went to a community college instead and found it much easier. A lot more attractive girls who were really nice. I could tell I made some of them nervous too, in a good way. Really wasn’t that bad after I started. I’m not that socially anxious in normal situations so it felt normal to ask the time. It felt really good to build up social momentum. As some of these girls were really attractive and it was nice to talk to multiple of them in a day.
Asking for time, then faster
I went to a University this time, again with a lot of attractive girls. These drills weren’t too hard. Some were nice and I started small talking with them. I don’t know if that’s allowed but I enjoyed it. The first set took me about 30 minutes to do. The second test took 5 minutes. This day wasn’t hard.
Ask for time, directions, have you been there.
Went to my alma mater, and again I was shocked by the amount of cuties and recalled how much of a DIPSHIT I was for being a pussy and not getting at girls while I was in college. The first girl I talked to was a bombshell and I was nervous to approach but I said fucket. I approached her and what do you know my words came out a jumbled mess. But she was nice and if I wasn’t such a sperg I feel like she might’ve been interested. All the girls I approached after this felt easy. I felt confident. Two girls were dismissive but I didn’t give a fuck. I approached two freshman looking girls who were eating lunch and they were super friendly when I asked them where the grocery store was. I had a conversation with them about the grocery store and it was pleasant. Again Chris says to do the drill and dip, but I enjoy these conversations cuz i’m so lonely after graduating these days.
Get in there
I don’t know, this day felt the same as the last day. I put more effort to "get in there" as Chris puts it, and it helped.
I’m also noticing how important it is to smile at the girls and give them hard eye contact. If I don’t do this, they act more scared and are likely to run off. This is hard for me because I usually mug people I don’t know.
Time, Directions, have you been there, do you like it.
Okay, this day royally fucked me up. I was super confident from the first week cuz it was easy for me, so I decided to invite my best friend out to do the program as well. I was explaining to him about the rules and how to do it, like I was a pro. Then we went to a mall near his university and there was a different vibe here. It was much more crowded than the suburban area that I’m from. It was a mall in San Francisco and it was PACKED. I hated malls from my first day too. The time rep was easy. But for some reason, everybody was in a rush in this mall and nobody wanted to stop and answer my questions. I felt like shit too because for some reason I hated that I was failing in front of my best friend after I acted like a pro. I did 3 reps after he did his 5 reps because he did day 4. The last girl I talked to didn’t give me the time of day and sprinted off. After this I said fuck this and we got pizza. So yeah, this day didn’t go well. Probably the worst I’ve felt from the program so far.
I went to another university when I visited SoCal to redo this day. A lot of cute girls here and it was a friday so I guess they were relaxed going into the weekend. They were all super helpful about finding the library and after I asked one girl if she liked it and she said its alright, I left. She said ‘okay, bye’ and to me her tone sounded like she meant ‘okay wait I want to talk to you more’, or maybe I just need to get off my high horse after feeling great about approaching girls. She was really cute tho, just my type. Then I approached one girl and we had a LONG conversation beyond the drill dialogue as I invited her to walk to the library with me. Then I told her she was cute after we split. I DON’T KNOW WHY I JUST CAN’T HELP MYSELF. I’ll make it a point to stick to the drills in the future.
Time, Have you eaten at nearby restaurant, did you like it.
I did this at a community college. Walked around too much for my taste. Also I tend to approach girls that are solo and where its unlikely that others would view my approach. This drill kinda fucked me up too. I asked if the girls had been to Chili’s before. And nobody knew the fucking place. So when it came to the rep where I ask them if they liked it. It took me awhile to actually approach a girl and do this rep. But after a while, I just did it and it was so awkward and cringey when I had to ask if they liked Chili’s when they never been there before. I did the rep 4 more times and I just felt like a troll. I was laughing out loud after the last rep where I approached two girls. When I asked them about chili’s they just looked at each other confused and one girl let out a “whaaaa??” Then they walked off, I was dying laughing. At first this day was hard and cringey, but now I just see it as a joke.
Do you know where movie theater is? Good movies?
I officially moved to the LA area by this time, so I’m going to commit more effort to completing the program. I’ll try to do it everyday. I went to the mall near my apartment because I hate approaching at malls and I need to get over that. I found it awkward to ask girls if they seen any good movies lately, but some reactions were good and I small talked a bit with some girls. I’m noticing that I have a habit of bailing on a rep when a girl is dismissive to my approach. For example I ask for the time, and they mug me, then I say ok thank you and walk away and don’t finish the rep. Something I need to stop doing. I did this on the second to last rep and didn’t ask the girl if she seen any good movies. So I went and asked two other girls and they said no straight up. One of them was laughing and said ‘they all suck’ with a smile. I thought that was funny.
Place that sells cell phones? What phone do you have? do you like it?
Asking a lot of questions is simple for me. I guess because I’m still in a nice guy position as I feel I’m asking for their validation. The bigger struggle was keeping them talking to me. I had to put more effort into stopping them and standing in front of them if they were walking and locking eyes with them, before I initiated the questions. Also I’m realizing that I’m trying to validate my questions and adding a bunch of unnecessary dialogue to conversation. Like “oh my phone broke, oh you like nice, what phone do you have? Sorry for interrupting you, have a beautiful day!” I actually fucking apologize for approaching, like WTF. I’mma stop that forreal. I’m going to try and just say the drills verbatim, and not say ‘excuse me, hey sorry for stopping you, but I have a problem that I really need help with if you can help me… Do you know the time?’ LIKE WTF I ACTUALLY DO THIS.
Place that sells candles? I’m planning dinner for my GF?
This one was funny as I played the role of BF which I never been in my life. But girls found it really sweet and were super nice. I found it super awkward and cringey saying the last line “I’m the sweetest guy ever”. I realize I’m at a point where I’m so used to asking questions and I’m having trouble just making statements to girls. I would frame this statement as a question to them still asking for their validation, like “you think I’m the sweetest guy ever for doing this for my GF, right?” damn, BETA BITCH. But I mean, then I approached a group of sorority girls where one of the girls got jealous cuz she just got dumped. Ha not my problem bitch, cuz i’m taken.
This is a day that I feel I need to repeat and do right and make the last statement and not turn it into a question for validation.
Also I went on two online dates. Been awhile since I went on a date because I was so focused on school my senior year of college. I made out with the girls on each date in my car and I thought they went well. Then I hit them both up for a second date. To which neither of them responded. Sad Face. This made me feel like complete shit and I didn’t do the program for a couple days. I guess I’m not that good at dating and need to work on that too.
Place that sells wine? I just passed my test.
I went to a big university for this one cuz I was going to a concert there after. I still felt like shit from the online girls not responding to me. But I’m realizing more and more about how important it is to just do the drills and disregard how I feel that day.
These drills weren’t that hard. Some cute girls were really helpful and the eye contact was strong, and fuck, I want to get at these college girls BAD. But I’ll wait, I still feel an amount of approach anxiety that I need to get rid of. A lot these girls at this school didn’t speak english which surprised me. They just ran off. But this was the first time I made an effort to walk with them and their mugging faces didn’t scare me off. I then approached multiple girls in a row which I never did before I always tried to move to a new area to approach a new girl as I hated people witnessing what I was doing. At this point I’m just tired of walking around so much and wasting time. One time when I approached two girls in a row, I saw this guy smiling as he passed me. Before I would overanalyze this and let it effect me. For some reason, before, I was scared of other masculine dudes seeing me approach and get rejected. I give less of a fuck now. Its crazy that even after a week and a half I’m already so much more confident. Cool.
Then I went to this concert alone, because I don’t really have that many friends in LA. It was filled with students and couples. And I’m just looking at these dorky dudes holding onto hot girls and I’m like WTF. Things have been tough so far after moving. And I just feel like shit when I go around alone and do these drills. I hate how I wasted so much time in high school and college jerking off and playing video games. This is my biggest motivation for doing the program. Getting a social life.
The day after the concert. I went to the mall and this drill fucked me up. I don’t know why but I guess after getting rejected from those girls, and online dating is drying up that I can’t find girls to go on dates with, and being alone at this crowded concert in a crowd rubbing up against couples, I couldn’t pull through. I walked around the mall and told myself in the moment how feelings don’t matter and its moments like these that determine my true character and just do the fucking drills. I still quit. I gave up and went home. This was a tough day for me.
The next day (which is today) I confidently finished the drill. It was awkward at first and there were lessons I learned. I’m surprised girls actually gave me a high five. I feel like its so weird and if someone did it to me, idk if I would return the five. I finished the first set in 25 minutes, and the social momentum felt great. I high fived old women and young. Some also didn’t speak english so I had to motion to them. I found that if I stopped them and made eye contact with them, then raised my hand and said ‘high five’ they all would high five me. There were times where I walked past them and they didn’t high five me. There was also an older lady who refused, I guess because I approached her strangely from the side. The last girl was a cutie and she smacked the SHIT out of my hand. Like fuck, hit me again please babe.
The second set I went to a different mall which I found out was a mistake. The first mall had way many more people and younger people my age. The second mall was all old people, workers and kids. It actually took me 35 minutes to complete this set. Ten minutes longer, feels bad.
Alright there it is. I'm all updated. I will continue to update everyday and get this program done.
I fucking killed this day, KILLT. Can't believe I bitched out on the first day doing high fives.
Yesterday I did high fives and both sets averaged out at 30 minutes of walking around and high fiving. Today I split that in half for the first set coming in at 15 min and for the second set I split that in half coming in at 8 min. FEELS GOOD.
For these drills I'm just getting fucking tired of walking around so much cuz I got other stuff on my daily Todo list to complete. I went to a community college and got in there and high fived the first girl I saw. She smiled and returned my five. Then I walked around and it was actually hard to find a girl, it was mostly dudes. I then found a plumper girl (these girls I find are more excited to high five) and she obliged me. Then the momentum built up and I finished the set.
Then for the second set I went to an eating area where a bunch of people were sitting. Usually I would be afraid to do any type of approach in a crowded area where people could see me. But I felt competitive and said fuckit. So I went around and high fived all the girls in a row where they could see me high fiving girls ahead of them. Fuck you bitches, that's right I'm a mack daddy chad playa playa, idgaf what you think.
It felt good until I started rushing approaches. I felt that some girls were caught off guard and ran off without saying a word. Felt pretty awkward but wateva. Girls would usually return fives if I didn't act like a weirdo sperg.
@Radical Yeah I am, I'm not going to post my pics cuz I don't want to dox myself. But apparently according to Rousseau I need to buy boosts. Fuckin A I'm broke lmao. When I resigned up for tinder(which was like a month ago) I would get like fifteen matches a day so I think my profile is decent. But then I guess the algorithm fucked me and now I ain't got shit.
@Rousseau I will enjoy it, and I will love it. I'll still keep up with the online dating and buy boosts. Never thought that day would come.
I will say though that if you go all in here you will get the best results from GLL
Alternatively Andy/killtheinnerloser offers very worthwhile coaching and tinder services(profile check and photo editing) which would massively increase your success online if you dont fancy sharing pics on the forum
Big goal: 100 lays - so far 16/100
2020 goal: 1/24
Stuff to do:
Stick to cut and gym schedule
Find a job/money
"I'm not going to post my pics cuz I don't want to dox myself"
Dude if you're worried about that just post them for like 2-3 days, then delete them. That's what a lot of guys do.
But you shouldn't even worry about that. I don't have the numbers or anything but my guess is that the active readership of this forum is like a few hundred people, tops. A very small percentage of that will even read your post/see your pics. The odds that someone will recognize you from real life is retardedly small. And even then, what are they gonna say? Tell all your non-existent friends (you said you don't have any) that you are part of a self-improvement forum? Life gets a lot better when you are just honest about what you're doing and stop trying to hide everything.
Seriously, the difference in success between guys who take this seriously and post pictures for feedback and guys who don't is very striking. And this is coming from a guy who for the first 2-3 years here refused to post my pics for the same reason you mentioned. So trust me, I get it. And also trust me, it's retarded.
Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die.
Give 10 girls that aren't walking a high-five. They must be fairly stationary and not on their way somewhere.
Fuckin shit biscuits guys I halfway fucked this day up and I'm not happy about it.
At first it went great and I went to a bookstore like Chris suggested. This store was fucking huge. Had three stories and a cafe so I had plenty of stationary girls to high five. And I high fived them in a total of 6 minutes. I was happy about that because it is my fastest time yet, but I still went to drill girls that were more secluded. Still fast tho.
BUT THEN, I went to the mall near my apartment and I have been doing drills a lot there recently. The bookstore here is much smaller and people would DEFINITELY be able to see me if I approached multiple girls. So then I got all in my head and gave up. Fuckin shit. I'mma finish the second set tomorrow and my goal is to do all ten high fives in a crowded area. Cuz crowded areas are my kryptonite. I might just redo the whole day, fuckin A.
Also I went to an event today with a lot of cute girls I didn't know, and I talked to a few and my conversation skills suck ass too. I gotta work on that too mang wtf.
You're a good looking enough cat and could definitely slay with some work. You could definitely up your edge (accessories, earrings, etc) , and your profile lacks variety. Take a look at
, you're making a few key mistakes. But since you're doing the AA program, focus on that. Worry about maxing your looks later.
Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die.
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