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after my introduction to this forum, compare also www.goodlookingloser.com/forums/introduc...nd-current-situation , i decided to start with the "How to go out alone to bars" program instead of the AA program, because i am already a bit experienced with approaching women and can normally start an interaction in 3 to 4 out of 5 situations. Week 1 - night 1 (13.08.2019) I went to a bar in Zurich, where also a dancefloor is integrated. Here i passed all tasks except of the one asking the bouncer how he is, because no bouncer was there. For that open task i switched then later to another bar, where i fulfilled also this missing task. 3 observations were interesting for me in this first night: Talking to the bouncer and two other well dressed guys asking for the time or where the toilet is, i was nervous, almost blocked to start the conversation. But it was all good at the end and i got some friendly answers. So it seems i have a natural respect of authorities and persons with obviously higher status and put them automatically on a pedestal. But at the end they are all humans like me, and also "cook only with water" as we say in Germany. While searching for eye contact with ladies, i stood next to the dancefloor and smiled to a group of ladies from Asia. Most of them smiled back and suddenly one of the ladies came to me to introduce herself. After that, we danced for a while and at the end i took her number. I think it is a solid number and we will se us again. Unbelieveable, i just stood there and searched for eye contact. But maybe it makes sense what Chris says, that you have to style out yourself to a maximum to be at least over-average in your appearance comparing to other guys. At least she complemented me, that i am a good looking man. And finally i also made the creeper challenge taking pics of a group of girls with the flash light. (One of the pictures you can see below). The girls just turned around, but then suddently a guy, who was standing next to me, interrupted me, that this is not a good idea what i am doing here. I should ask the ladies before taking a picture of them. I said, that it was just spontaneously and i will ask them then next time. So the situation was under control and i got no trouble. It was a nice challenge to make these pictures, because nobody is doing this normally. So it makes sense to pass such creeper challenges in the perspective of doing what you want and do not give a damn what others think about you. |
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Hi all,
I passed yesterday the second day of the program. Week 1 - night 2 (15.08.2019) Similar to the first night, I went to two bars to solve all the tasks. The bars were not the same like on the first night to bring some variety into the challenge. Here are my observations during the second night going out alone: The bouncer was really surprised because of my question how he is tonight. These tough guys are obviously not used to it, that people could treat them friendly. He then asked me how I am and and then I entered the bar. Good to know for the future, try to befriend the bouncer. If you are in trouble or you want to enter the bar, he will remember you in a positive way. The creeper challenge got tough last night. First of all, there were not so much people in the bar, which means that many of the other guests would see what I am doing there inside.That frightened me and it took me a while until I could make the creeper challenge because of that. Finally I made three pictures in front of two ladies with flash light (see one of the pictures below). As a result of this, they looked really shocked at me afterwards. Then I walked over to them and told them they look so beautiful and I just had to make some pictures of them. They were not amused about it and looked at me in a disgusted way for the rest of my stay in that bar. It was very uncomfortable for me, it really felt like I am a total creep. In addition, it needed some minutes until my heart beat went down again and I could continue with the other tasks. But after I finished the night, it felt really good and also right. For me this means, that to expand your own comfort zone you have to push through the uncomfortable situations to improve yourself, there is no other choice.
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Hey,
I went out yesterday again to complete the first week of the program. The cool thing about the program is for me in general, that it gives me a structure for the night, which highly motivates me to go out. Even on Thursday this week after I passed my outdoor sports session in the early evening, I wanted to go out to fulfill the tasks afterwards. Normally it was a huge problem to motivate me to go out after sports or the work in the office in general, so this program is the perfect thing for my needs. I am really looking forward to the next weeks. Week 1 - night 3 (16.08.2019) Like the two nights before, I decided to pass the night challenges in two different bars, that were directly located next to each other in the near of the main station in Zurich. Here are my observations of the night: Like the nights before trying to make eye contact with girls went pretty well after a while. After some good reactions from ladies I automatically started to smile at them and some of them mirrored me and did the same. Some of the ladies were really receptive to my advances, some stayed very cold or did not even look in my direction. It seems to me, that you can already make with this a first screening, which ladies probably like you and which not. Maybe the program will expand on that topic in the next weeks, we will see. The creeper challenge was again a tough one, because the bar was really dark and everybody would notice, when a guy is shooting 3 pics with flash light. But I survived it again (see also the pic below), and had a small talk with the two confused ladies afterwards to explain them my behavior. Like in the first two nights, maybe the explanation was not necessary at this point, because Chris wrote about it in one of his articles, that you should not care about what people thing about your behavior and just do what you want anyway. Maybe I will do this creeper challenge in the next weeks of the program in addition voluntarily and try to avoid giving explanations of my behavior. In conclusion there was a funny moment during the night. After I asked the female bar tender how long they will serve dinner in the venue, I was standing at the bar putting some checkmarks on my list with the tasks for the night. Then a guy came up to me and asked me if I am a police officer or so because of my interrogation of the bar keeper and putting the result on a piece of paper afterwards. Remembering Chris writing about in one of his articles, that the goal should be becoming a pussy inspector, I told the guy, that I am something like that.
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This thread looks fun, like you turned this shit into a video game. I wish it was around years back when I started going out to bars. I think you're onto something here. Keep at it.
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Hello guys,
I am in Phuket, Thailand for holidays this and the following week before starting a new job in Zurich in September. It means, that I will pass week 2 and 3 of the first month here in Thailand during the holidays. Week 2 - night 1 (22.08.2019) The first task was already amazing, first I could not speak to a bouncer by just asking for his name. Then I observed a situation, where one of the bouncers handle a situation with an aggressive person very well. After that, I went to the bouncer asking directly for his name. He looked surprised and asked me to repeat the question what I did then. He the told me his name, I introduced myself and we made shake hands. During that, I told him, that he handled the situation before very well. We were almost buddies at the end of this short interaction. This one was a very good experience for me. The task to create eye contact and smile after 2 or 3 seconds worked also very good. One lady reacted good and I went over to her to talk with her. I even pulled her out of the bar to kiss her there later. But I stopped the interaction then, because she wanted money for coming with me. I would never pay for sex. Anyways, the experience was great. I also started to like the move of passing by a lady and say Hi over your shoulder, I got good reactions, although maybe some of these Thai ladies were prostitutes. Guys, 3 minutes can be a very long time just standing and do nothing in the middle of the main party street in Patong on Phuket Island, the famous Bangla road, and all these people walking by. But it was a nice task to become non-reactive to what happens around you. People even had to change their direction, because I was standing in their way and made no intention to move away. in conclusion, again I have to say how this program motivates me. Today in the evening was very bad weather, but I did not care and just went out to the bar area. As a reward, I got nice experiences again. |
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Hi all,
second night going out in the Bangla road in Patong on the island of Phuket in Thailand to fulfill the tasks of the second week. At the end it got really good. Week 2 - night 2 (23.08.2019) I felt a bit like a creep during that night, especially because of two tasks. The first is the one where you just sit 5 minutes at a table just looking around and watching people. I felt uncomfortable, but I pushed me through these 5 minutes, it felt like infinity. The second one was the creeper challenge, where you have to walk up beside a group of girls and blatantly listen in to their conversation for as long as you can. In contrary to the night before, where I got funny reactions, this time the three ladies looked at me completely confused and irritated. Then I asked one of the girl, if it was creepy for her, what she affirmed. Then I let the conversation really quick. Nevertheless, the other tasks where good, especially the one asking the bouncer for his name made much fun again. Side note about the end of the night: After I passed the taks for this night, I met the Thai girl again from the night before and finally had sex with her in my hotel room. The development was the following: After I got her number on Thursday night, we wrote the next morning to meet up in the early evening. We then made a walk around the town and beach, and I escalated again with kissing and touching. She liked it but was not willing to come with me to my hotel room. So we decided to make party later that evening again in the same bar like yesterday. From there I pulled her to my room then. She had Sex with me without any monetary reward from my side. Without the execution of Chris program, I think I would not have had this lay. Thank you Chris! |
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i am coming back right now from the third night of week 2 of the program. Week 2 - night 3 (24.08.2019) The tasks went pretty well today, I feel much more familiar and comfortable with them than on the first night of this week. A bouncer again reacted very friendly while asking him for his name and start a little conversation with him. My observation in general here in Thailand is, that even as a European in Asia, you have no guarantee, that you can flirt with every local lady. Trying to make eye contact was normally difficult. But with the ladies that were receptive, they had a nice smile in their face at the end. The creeper challenge was fun, too. Two ladies were talking while I walked up beside them and listen in to their conversation. One was shocked and turned away, the other one looked me in the face. I said then, hopefully it did not look creepy, but I wanted to know which language they spoke. It turned out, that they were from England. The girl was not surprised, when I revealed that I am German. Before leaving them, it looked a bit like they wanted to declare right away a new war between England and Germany after my action. But it was funny anyway. To end up this week, I want to give you a impression of the famous Bangla road by night in the city Patong on Phuket island, Thailand, that you can get an idea of what kind of party is going on here every night. I made the video below after passing my tasks for today.
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Hi volks,
the third week of the program began today and I am still in Patong on Phuket island to fulfill the current missions, so let's go! Week 3 - night 1 (25.08.2019) The introduction of the new move walking past a girl and say "Hey you" over your shoulders so she looks at you, was not that easy. It took me several times pacing up and down the Bangla road until I got 5 more or less good results from ladies. Most of the reactions were from completely ignoring me to look ice cold towards me. I have to improve this move, maybe I will even do it on day time from now on to get practice. Similar reactions I got with the eye contact and waving task. also here many ladies in my favorite bar just ignored me completely or looked emotionless towards me. But at the end I got 3 girls waving back to me with a smiling. Oh boy, standing now for 5 minutes instead of 3 in the center of the Bangla road just doing nothing and let all the mass of people passing by, was again like an eternity for me, but it felt very good again to do it. I like the way of Chris' program to expand your comfort zone step by step each week with this little baby steps. |
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Week 3 - night 2 (26.08.2019)
In today's night the move of saying "Hey you" over your shoulder while passing a lady worked much better than yesterday. At the end of this session I had a really good feeling about it although still many ladies did not react on that kind of approach. Maybe it is also due to the loud environment of the Bangla street and it's clubs. I try to say the words tomorrow on the third night of week 3 louder. Guys, sit at a table in a bar and just watching people for 10 minutes is actually not that easy, I had from time to time the tendency to check my mobile phone or do other shit. So you can learn with that task to stay really focused on something. Should be useful also in other areas of life, not just for hitting up on girls. The creeper challenge with the condom on the table is really an interesting task. Here in Thailand it is causing more amused reactions of the ladies. I guess in Europe or America, the reactions would be more surprised or shocked and the ladies would see me more like a creep. But at least today it had a great impact on a table with 3 ladies. 20 minutes after I conducted the task, they were still watching me, what I am doing in the bar. Pretty amazing what you can cause with some small actions.
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Week 3 - night 3 (27.08.2019)
Tonight regarding the creeper challenge I finally got the change to place my condom on a table of either European or American looking tourists. Not that surprising, that they reacted different than the Thai ladies from the two nights before, meaning more seriously and surprised. But at the end one of them said, that she can use it maybe in the near future. So it was pure fun at the end with them, too. Again the task of saying "Hey you" over my shoulders while passing by a girl took me again longer until I got 5 good results. In addition, the ladies tonight were not that receptive for my eye contact and waving, but after a while I got three good results as well in my favorite bar. The talks with the bar keepers in general this week were very harmonic. Each of the guys told me a bit about how he got his job, it was quite interesting. In conclusion, the program of Chris is very motivating and makes so much fun, I am really looking forward to the final week 4 of the first month. Side note about the beginning of the night: Before I went out I had sex with another Thai lady, who I met on early evening of my first day in Patong next to the beach. In those days, after a short small talk together with her friend, I wanted to go home sleeping a bit because of my jet lack and she asked for exchange of contacts. On the very next day, I had a daytime date with her, where she took me to another beach in the near with her scooter. We had a nice day, but at the end of the day we went separated ways because she was stressed a bit because of her private background. On that evening I had sex then with the other Thai lady, so it was not a bad decision to separate. Now today I wrote here in the morning what her plans are for today. She responded that she has free time at 06.00pm and we can catch up at my hotel. After her arrival, we went directly to my hotel room, had a little talk while I escalated physically on her. After one hour or so we had sex. After that, I got a big surprise from her, because she wanted money for the sex. I told her that I don't pay for sex and that she did not mention that before we actually had the sex. After a while of discussion she left the hotel very angry - and with no money from me. I was totally fine with it. If she had mention the money before, I would not have sex with her for sure. |
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Because of the high traffic of people on the Bangla road and it's clubs in Patong, I decided to continue this week direct with week 4 of the first month after the successfully passing of the third week.
Week 4 - night 1 (28.08.2019) The new move to tap a lady on her shoulder while passing her is a highly effective move, that I already love. 4 out of 5 girls reacted to it directly and looked at me, just awesome. To stand 10 minutes without any move in the center of the Bangla road is pretty insane. But I survived it and it pushed me really to my limit and patience, very good exercise to expand your comfort zone. And don't worry, so far I had no collision with any of the pedestrians there. All of them evaded ultimately before hitting me. The creeper challenge this week makes you really feel like a creep while you wipe your wet finger on the arm of lady. I did it two times, because the first time I smiled too much in the face of the woman. in the second try with another lady I looked at her more like a real creep. To be honest, I felt in both cases like shit, because I am a true gentlemen and never did something like that before to an unknown lady. We will see, how my experience will be on the next two days of the week 4 with that task. |
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