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well, I started the day by getting the rest of my drills done for day 25. so that's done.
but sorry slick, I regret to inform you that
Day 26 (who's your daddy)
was not killed. yet.
I have a concern that I would like to bring up. Since gettting kicked out of the mall, I notice my ability to "get in there" is SIGNIFICANTLY reduced. I definitely do not get in there. I used to be able to do half to 3/4 of an entire day's drill in one venue, now I can only do 3 or 4 girls per place. Is it because these are hard drills, or is it me? Should I go backwards in the program? What else could I do to solve this problem?
Anyway, I did one rep of this drill, very late at night in walmart. I had a busy day with other things. Mercifully, the girl gave me an answer on my first run-through of the line. I gave her a smile like "you did it!" and turned to walk away.
then she said "that was scary!" as I was leaving, I heard a guy say "what was scary?" and before I could even hear the rest, I SPEEDWALKED THE FUCK OUT OF THERE and went out a different exit. I did NOT want to hang around for that guy to call security on me or anything like that. On my way out of the parking lot I thought I heard someone say "that's him!" or I could just be going insane...
Jesus, this is kinda terrifying. I don't want to get stopped by cops again.
It's late at night, you are at a walmart asking a girl who her father is and what does he do.
If you didn't make it clear that it was all in good fun and joking around, she definitely got scared. I scared/creeped out plenty with this drill as well.
I would go somewhere you don't and won't frequent when it comes to this drill. This drill is one of the bigger ones because it's a milestone. You'll see what I mean when you accomplish it.
Second, I think this may have been mentioned before but I'll say it again. You are paranoid. Getting kicked out of a place sucks and it has you on edge. That's why you are second guessing yourself.
It's not because you can't get in there. You have! You've already done that and you are going to do it again.
Go somewhere you haven't gone and get underway. If you can go to a nearby city and do what you got to do there, do it. That's what I did with the city. It felt like a giant playground where I was free.
I just need some reassurance from someone that I am barking up the right tree here. I feel less able to approach girls than before, and less socially free right now than I normally do when coming home from drills, so I am really wondering if something is wrong.
I am just sweating bullets back here in my apartment and I don't want to leave this program with negative progress. It's all mental and if I develop a mental block because of cops, then I wonder if I am just screwed for this.
Yea its a shitty experience, especially so early on. Here's a tip for "whos your daddy":
First of all, GET IN THERE, GET PUMPED, seriously you gotta put yourself in that mindset bruh.
Second, when doing the drill, First go up and ask "hey hows it going?' to warm up the reaction. I got to give credit to rouseau for that one (read it BIB's log where he gave that advice. It really ups to lighten things up. Then have fun with it, I had trouble not laughing at it and that really helped keep it more innocent and not so scary. Just be friendly man
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I think it's normal to feel shitty this week. I felt uber paranoid that "they were onto me" and all that crap...it really didn't help that I did all the week 4 drills where I live.
This is a legit hard week. You don't have to blitz with "who's your daddy" (aka, do them all in one spot). You just need 10.
Slick and Jstone already gave some good advice. Only thing I want to add is definitely do not do the stupid schwarzeneger impression; at least for me that creeped the fuck out of girls.
Guess one more thing to say is if you do this in a city, then you're at worst one of the "crazies" (like in San Francisco there was "bush man" who legit pretended to be a bush and would jump scare people)...so you'll fit in fine
Alright. So first I did what slick said and drove very far away. I went out to a random town in the sticks to a target.
Lap. No reps.
I went to the Walmart nearby as there were more people coming in. There was a real shortage of hot girls around, maybe because it was so far out in the country or because school has started and all the hot girls are on campuses now.
Or it could be because I was trying to find ONLY girls around my age, that were alone. You guys keep saying groups are no big concern but girls really don't go out alone that much!!
Then I tried what Jstone said, do other drills to really get your state up.
I high fived people, men and women, anyone who was intimidating to me. I did other little things to increase my social freedom (like telling a lady "wow, you have a lot of cats" when I saw all the cat food in her cart). Beginning to see now how it would be possible to do this drill, you just need a TON of momentum.
Still. Lap. No reps. I said to one girl "we are going to play a game" and without missing a beat, she walked right off and said "no, we're not."
Headed back to target now that more people were around. I was much higher state then before, really projecting positivity.
I was about to do another lap and no reps, when I saw ONE girl standing alone and tried it on her.
After my second run through of the lines, she just kept repeating "you're scaring me" after everything I said. What am I supposed to do with that? I walked off without doing it 3 times.
Now I've got a long ass drive back to where I live, I'm on my phone right now.
While waiting for takeout I idly flirted with the girl at the counter to try and make myself feel better.
This drill is tough so don't beat yourself up about it.
You made progress as you figured out what you need to do in order to get started with this drill. That's knowledge you can take with you into the future drills.
Now, definitely use Jstones advice before you get started on the drill. Saying hey how are you to the girl helped me out BIG TIME with this drill. And smile. A genuine smile. Like you saw a puppy that wouldn't stop smiling at you like the way puppies do.
I'll say it again, this drill really rubs people the wrong way but the fact you went out and tried again says more than enough.
Try again tomorrow. You got this. All you need is one. You get one, you know you can do others.
3 dates set up yesterday. numbers, called them all on the phone. I'm following BIB's one night lay guide, loosely.
3 tonight, numbers. CALLED THEM ALL ON THE PHONE.
This is ALL I did last year when I was too much of a pussy and too depressed to start this program. 50, 60 numbers I will never use again? I can't schedule my nighttime activities because I don't know what will happen.
EXCEPT I FUCKING DO. MY FLAKE RATE IS 100 PER FUCKING CENT. WHY, WHY DO THEY DO THIS??
WHY DOES CHRIS THINK THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR SELF ESTEEM?
I seriously went home tonight licking my wounds from striking out at day 26 thinking to myself "ah well, at least I've got a date tonight. What are the odds that 3 girls will all cancel 2 days in a row?"
Dude that's exactly why I DIDN'T do any online dating during the AA program. I knew the same thing would happen. I knew it would just wreck my self esteem, so I just didn't even bother.
Chris doesn't recognize that online dating worked for him because was in the 99th percentile of physical attractiveness. However, if you're ANYWHERE outside of the top 80th percentile (and honestly, out of the top 95th percentile) you're fucked online. You're gonna be fighting for scraps. Online dating was DIFFERENT when Chris wrote the AA program. Literally just a few years ago. The "above-average" rule does NOT work for online. Period. The evidence is everywhere.
Here's the reality: you are skinnyfat. Skinnyfat is almost the worst thing you can be, after obese.
I'm not giving you a hard time, I looked EXACTLY like you one year ago. But it is a shitty look. You will have to bust your fucking ass in the gym and kitchen for AT LEAST a year before you start to look good. Just accept that for now. Online dating is probably not a good idea until you're in decent shape.
Again, I was right where you're at, so I know how it feels.
There's a reason why WHO IS YOUR DADDY is the hardest drill.
It's fucking insanely creepy and weird. Girls hate it, unless you know how to do it just right.
Killtheinnerloser loves to say that this was one of his favorite days.
That's not how it is for most guys.
I had a huge amount of trouble with this drill because I couldn't even get girls to stick through the whole thing. They would just get annoyed or creeped out and walk away to avoid me. FINALLY I recorded a video of me attempting it for the forum; I got some excellent advice from Rousseau, who told me "the problem is you're doing the drill AT these girls... you should be doing it WITH them. When you walk up to them, smile and say "hey how's it goin?" THEN start the drill"
That made all the difference. The majority of girls actually stopped to hear me out after that. This is my recommendation to you. Do it and this day will be feasible. And don't forget: either way, you're actively crushing your approach anxiety just by trying.
Thanks for everything you guys. It's time for me to move on to bigger things!
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