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Long time lurker. Forgive me for the length of this post, but hopefully it will be helpful. So. Background. Throughout my high school years, my flaccid size was always a source of embarrassment (just 3" or so), and led to me avoiding sexual contact until way into college. What I didn't know then was that my cock was actually a decent size -- my erect length was up to 6.5 depending on my weight, and my erect girth was over 6".
Fast forward to the somewhat present. I'm now in my early 30s. My erect girth has continued to grow without any PE (yes, I'm lucky there), but my erect length shrunk to just a hair over 5". The fact that I gained over 50 pounds since my peak of 6.5 has a large part to do with that. In any event, let's not dwell on the past.
I was always intrigued but skeptical of the PE industry. I tried to jelq a few years ago but never noticed a difference to stay committed. But then I started to watch Chris's videos. All I can say is thank you. Your starting stats were similar to mine but, more importantly, I felt like I could trust you. I started using the X30 in March 2013 and got serious in June when I coupled it with SG. In that time, my flaccid length has increased nearly 1", and my erect length has increased about 0.5". As I said, girth was always just fine for me, and has increased a hair or two.
Gains aside, the X30 always annoyed me -- the valves were horseshit (I changed them twice and always needed to realign them), I lost pressure over the course of the pump, and I'd see a steady stream of bubbles the whole time. No doubt, it still worked. But I always felt like I wasn't maximizing my gains. And then the Xtreme entered the market.
Simply put, if you have the money, buy it. Yes, I'm a first time poster. Yes, you don't need to believe me. Yes, you should be skeptical. But I'm telling you guys -- it is just THAT much better than the X30 to the point where my X30 is now sitting in the trash. This will eventually become my journal, but if you are considering the Xtreme, keep reading.
It's pricy. Well over $350, so more than a Penomet. Let's start with objective criticism. It comes with a lot of stuff you may not otherwise buy and no doubt jacks up the price -- some lube, a towel, a measuring device, a weird looking cleaning device, and a fancy case and lock. All very nice. But not something we'd shell out extra dough for.
So, is it still worth the crazy price tag? My answer is yes. People always hate on the comfort pad but this one is different. The inner skin is more flexible and it extends about 4" into the gator. What that means is your days of gator bite are over -- with my girth, I'd ALWAYS get gator bites on my dick after an X30 pump, comfort pad or not. But I haven't had a single mark or indent since I switched to Xtreme.
More importantly, the valve system removes all of the nonsense that we have all experienced and complained about with the X30. Let's be real, that was a bust, even if the newer productions are dandy. But they got it right this time. I get a solid pump after a few quick thrusts of the Xtreme. And that's before I attach the hand pump on the device. After all, that's what we're getting the Xtreme for, right? So how "extreme" is it?
Quite a bit. Even after 3-4 months of the X30, the hand pump literally "pumps" my dick to dimensions that I've never seen before. It's only been a week so I can't yet speak to gains, but I can tell I'm maximizing my time, and I intend to stick with it. All I can tell you is that the pull and the tug is THAT much different than the X30. Bottom line, if you're dedicated enough to be running BM, SG, manual stretching, and god knows what else, then please ... please listen to me. Shell out or save up. The stretch, and the benefits of the new comfort pad, are worth it.
I measure monthly but I'll do my best to keep this updated in the meantime. See you all around.
** edited to add: I haven't tried a vac-u-vin so I can't really comment on whether the Xtreme's hand-pump is better, worse, or the same.
yes keep us posted. I was going to buy one but I got the vacu-vin. the wine thing that will suck out air out of the bathmate. well I tried it twice and I do not like it. my cock was sore but my balls were sore for 3 days.my whole groin area hurt for 3 days also. it is o.k. now I had a hard time walking with the ball pain I had. what helped is to wear a jock strap. now I am afraid of the Xtreme. would like to hear all your comments thanks
Hey, Cowboy. I haven't had any ball soreness (or prolonged pain), but I did have quite a bit of fluid retention the first time that I hand-pumped to max pressure. Since then, I've avoided fluid retention by breaking up my sessions into 5 minute increments with manual stretching in between -- 5 min max pump, manual stretches, 5 min max pump, stretches, and then a final 5 min pump.
So far, it seems to be working. My cock comes out thicker and longer than it did with the X30, and the pump seems to be lasting longer into the day.
I'm doubtful about something: how do you find it possible to manually stretch a cock pumped up by bathmate? my cock doesnt stay flaccid enough for stretching after pumping.
I enter the BM about 80% hard and by the time I take off the device after 5-7 mins I'm "pumped" up but not erect. I find it easier to stretch that way too because I can get a nice firm grip on the enlarged head. I'm not as elastic as I would be unpumped and flaccid, but I can still get a nice stretch going, and then back into the BM i go.
I should note that this wasn't my routine with the X30. With that I'd just put it on and leave it there for 15-20 mins, and re-pump every few mins to compensate for lost pressure.
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