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When I saw that the discolouration went down after a couple of hours and I had no visible red (or any other colour to be alarmed about), had normal erection quality, no physical pain, I didn't think that I had sustained any serious injury. When I decided to try the X30 the next day, I was basically listening to my body as well as being very cognizant of what was going own during that session. I always monitor myself and the BM in any session (visual as well as physical). This time more so than any other. I was at high attention to see if I felt any physical indicators that there may be an issue, as well as visual cues. Again, I wouldn't try this in month 1 or 2, but I feel confident I know whats going in due to the time I've put into this thing.
And agreed, for veterans with a few months of BM experience more time in the X30 vs X30 Extreme will yield similar results - that I'm convinced of. |
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I really think 3*10's are perfect for the X30. No hint of a donut and max expansion. Early today I did my session and was as 'expanded' as I ever get. I took some measurements - Girth was 6.9", E.L=6.5" and BBEL=7", all IMO significantly larger than when I started.
After reading Sandshark's remarks about using the BM long term, and just about only that I think there's hope for some good permanent growth over a long period. The Mrs and I are planning some lifestyle/swinging fun this weekend, which necessitated checking the condom supply. I know I won't fit in a regular condom, so I had her pick me up some Trojan Magnum XL's. The attached pic is me post pump of a bout an hour. The condom was downright hard to get off and painful to get off, I'd say this is max girth for the Magnum XL's. EL was 6.4" and girth remained @ 6.9". |
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So even If you stop exercising your penis you will actually maintain most of the gains? I thought they would slowly dissapear. |
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For me, my temporary gains are now lasting long into the day, and sometimes evening. When I first started in Dec 2015 they would be gone in 10-20mins.
As for permanent gains after totally abandoning some form of PE? Who knows, I somehow doubt it. |
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Back at it. This morning when I entered the bathmate erect as always, I usually give one initial hard/large pump and quickly close the pip/valve, I usually pump to 6-6.5 inches. In 30 seconds I give it another firm/hard pump. Never have I gone over 7" in that pump. This morning I did. I exited the tube and measured; 6.6" EL, and 7.1" girth. If I didn't know better, the increase in my measurements after using the pump, and the longer it's taking me to lose gains, I think I'm getting somewhere.
Really contemplating an X40. I am smashed against the walls girth wise every time with the X30 or extreme. I literally can feel my dick sliding against the wall (not smoothly since I have a curve) every pump. Sandshark's post has me thinking it may be the next step. I want to try my X30 Extreme to see if I get the discolouration, I won't oder an X40 unless its Extreme. Picture is 30 seconds into the pump, crazy how fast I get full expansion now. |
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Perm gains or not, I would say the temp gains are well worth it. You're getting amazing temp girth gains in particular. I am about 4.75-5 inch in girth, and post bathmate I would say I'm only about 5.5 inches at max. You getting to 7 inches blows my mind. I'm hoping I can get there at some point.
My hang has been getting better though I will say. My girlfriend doesn't know I have a bathmate, and I've only pumped before sex a couple of times. I don't know if she can even tell. |
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So what do you do to get permanent gains? When you wake up is your penis still as it was before you starded doing the exercises (length and girth)?
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I'm assuming by this post/question you are new to PE. To get permanent gains, the theory is that you continue to put work in, and that in time the gains will stick or 'cement'. It is not an overnight occurrence, and most people put year(s) to see permanent gains. Google and take a look at other message boards that deal with PE (PEgym, Matterofsize, Thundersplace). When you sift through all the information on those boards, and this board - you should see a common theme and that gains take a while. There seem's to be some cases of posters on this board getting gains quite quickly ( www.goodlookingloser.com/forums/phallosa...6-big-results#251151 ) however from what I've read over the years - that's not common. You might want to message members here who are quick gainers to see if they are doing something that fits your lifestyle |
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This may be one of my last post's on GLL, as I may not be able to use the bathmate any longer. This morning I started a session in the normal X30. Within 5 minutes I could see an extreme colour change of my dick in the tube, again to that black/purple extreme bruised look. I aborted the session and had a black and purple cock. Basically the same look that I had a few weeks back in the extreme. I had taken 3 days off, that's the only thing I've done different. The bruising is subsiding (a few hours later).
I will take a few weeks off and perhaps start over with the newb routine. I took measurements yesterday after 2 days of rest with absolutely zero PE. I have no change in erect length or girth. Flacid hang is about the same as I've always had, same with girth. I won't be risking hurting myself, especially for a device that has provided me with zero change after 6 full months of use. If I get back at it I will post here with my experience. |
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Back at it.
I took 2 weeks off. Well, kind of. Every 3 or 4 days I would try the X30 out for a minute or two, I saw some evidence of discolouration so aborted. By the end of the 2 weeks, the 'test' pump yielded very little bruising. So I went for it. After a 3*5min session there was some light bruising, that went away with a massage. I've been pretty vigilante this week, but couldn't achieve 'great' expansion, maxing out at 6-6.5" girth post pump. Today, I could clearly see and feel that I was getting good expansion. Post pump was 7" girth, so it looks like I've made full recovery and back to where I left off. I am now making sure to throw in a rest day every few days, and careful on how quickly I pump to max pressure. I am finding that the gains are now lasting to some degree 24+ hours. Kind of wondering if the 2 weeks off served as a shock to the cock and I'm rounding the bend on perm gains. Time will tell. Three pics from today. The pictures in the pump are from about minute 8 of a 20 min session. The girth measurement is directly post pump. |
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Hey man, great post, im glad your back at it.
Actually, you inspired me to get the extreme model. Currently have the hercules. Sucks because, i am also getting some discoloration problems. I fucked it up when i took a 2 weeks break, and went a lil too hard on my first day coming back. Saw the red dots, took a couple of days, and somehow managed to control it. But for some reason every first day of my routine (i pump 5 on 2 off ) i get the blue/purple discoloration, only the first session, the rest of the week im fine. So I definitely created something "cronic" down there. Are you using any creams or something? I dont have any pain or nothing, just the discoloration bugs me the fuck out. |
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Thanks man, I really didn't want to stop...but when your dick looks like it went through a meat grinder, its time to evaluate!
I think we may be on to something regarding time off. I literally was on this like crazy, 6 or 7 days a week since Dec. The first multiple day break...I get meat grinder dick. Yesterday I was doing a 6*3 session. For the last 6 mins I decided to grab the Extreme instead of the X30 I had done the 2 first rep's with. I pumped like crazy, I think I may have been 7.25" in the tube, crazy intense pump. No discolouration. I'm going to figure all of this out, but it's definitely a short term thing that is visually scary. I tried Amlactin cream, it didn't do shit. My dick is now darker in the mid shaft section (like Chris). My wife doesn't give a fuck, the women we fuck and have been with don't give a fuck...so I don't give a fuck ![]() |
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