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I run a business, and only recently have gotten to the point I can do most of my work independent of location, meaning I still have tons of work to do all day but as long as I have my laptop I can post up anywhere.
So I've decided the best way to accomplish my goal of 100 basic guy game approaches, is to post up each day at one of the many coffee shops within 2-5 minutes walk from my apartment.
I did my first approach today, and got blown out. It left me with this question - If the girl is sitting, is it necessary to also sit? I'm 6'2 so it seemed really awkward, however she had her bag and all her books on the other chair at her table.
If the chair had been empty, would you simply sit down in it and start talking to her, or would you open her first, and then sit down?
Would you ask her if she minds if you sit, or would you just do it?
"I did my first approach today"
Hah, congrats man. You've got more balls than most guys.
"got blown out"
Get used to it; this will happen another 1000 times. You'll stop caring after a certain point, and just have fun with it.
"If the girl is sitting, is it necessary to also sit? "
I'd have just sat down and started talking to her. BUT... don't stress too much about stuff like this. It literally DOES NOT MATTER. Right now you think it does, because you're new to hitting on girls. I used to stress about the dumbest shit; "Which side of her should I stand? Do I stand close to her, or step back a bit? Do I ask for her name, or just tell her my name first? Should I smile, or look a bit more serious? Should I tell a joke, or just make small talk?"
None of it matters. Seriously, NONE OF IT MATTERS. You're literally just talking to people. The only thing that matters is you hit on as many girls as you possibly can, so you get more numbers.
Haha I thought the title was funny so I opened the thread.
FYI - i have very little experience with the opposite sex. I've done maybe 30-40 approaches, had dates with maybe 12-15 different girls and had sex with 5 escorts.
Not gonna lie, I've always like some of the senior forum members way of posting (killtheinnerloser, badideabear, rossueau, etc;) If you read their posts they always assume the best in the way that they reply.
Example: Killtheinnerloser's response to your question assumes that you will succeed, and continue to talk to other girls.
But yea, this type of thing really doesn't matter in the long run.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure it makes some sort of difference somehow, but its just not the kind of thing that will end up mattering if you are successful with approaching.
If this was the only approach you ever did, then hell yes you would need to get every detail perfect, but the community at GLL has the attitude of small increases over time for long term success.
Think about it in the same way you approach business, have a plan and then execute it.
To answer your last post: the 2 biggest / most important / crucial factors in approaching are looking good and then actually approaching.
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Alright, point taken. I would expect it to be more like an 80% reduction rather than 1.2% or whatever though - I find it incredibly awkward and uncomfortable holding a conversation with a standing person if I'm sitting down and I thought that was somewhat universal but perhaps it's just me.
I'm not dismissing your question, or deliberately trying to be flippant. Yeah you're right, sitting is definitely more normal.
Point I'm trying to make is go hit on a few hundred girls, and you'll figure all this stuff out. You'll make 100 mistakes, do 100 cringe-worthy, god-awful things, and you'll figure out what works and what doesn't work.
Don't be afraid to be bad at this, at least at the start. I was AWFUL for my first 100 approaches; most guys are.
intrinsicanomaly wrote: Really? Surely there are factors which increase/decrease chances of success, how could that not be the case?
How could that not be the case? It just isn't. At least not by a statistically significant amount.
Would you base whether or not you fuck a girl based on where she stood when she was talking to you? Of course not. Girl's aren't aliens. They are more picky in a lot of ways, but their behavior isn't SO different that you can't make comparisons.
Sure you might change your chances by half a percent or something. Who cares? 80% is WAAAAYYY far off. There's no chance how/where you stand would offer even a fraction of that advantage, unless you were doing something really outlandish like you got up on top of a table to talk to her in the middle of the shop.
More importantly, there are SO many factors that it's literally impossible to gather scientific evidence on all the different things you'd need to do to improve your chances by a tiny, tiny bit. No one knows, they just use anecdotal evidence.
Thanks for everything you guys. It's time for me to move on to bigger things!
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