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This is it ! Time to take action.
I don't think i will get serious about that, if i don't act on it through a "challenge". I consider myself as a Hard-To-Get Nervous Loser and I will do a 30-day challenge with the Bare Minimum Nervous Guy game. On his video about the BMNGG, Chris says "you can do this or you can do the AA program". I will do this.I will try to go straight to the point. Let's see what will happen. I will create my daily journal on this section. 30 Days of Bare Minimum Nervous Guy Game Challenge -1st goal:complete the challenge while significantly reducing/beating AA -2nd goal: achieve Chris's statistics for this type of game: 1-3 numbers out of 10 girls that I will ask 1 real number out of those 1-3 numbers about 1/3 of the real numbers will result to a hang out. So,on average, 1 hang out of 30 approaches I will approach 5 girls a day for the next 30 days (so in total 150 girls), no gap between the days, starting from tomorrow. I will do this almost exactly like Chris's "Asking 17 Girls For Phone Number Super Quickly" www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/fundamenta...number#!kmt-start=30 best guide out there. put some cool clothes, summon up my courage, get out of my home, ask for the girl's number (Hi, can I have your number?) not trying to do any too much of a macho asshole ludicrous bullshit . We have time for that later on. For now, just as natural as possible. Every day I will post here. I have a bit of stress but I'm hugely DETERMINED to do it !
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Posting so I can follow this thread. Best of luck.
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Day #1
My first day. Oh baby, it was tough, i must be honest about that. It was tough for me. I have to agree that you need to fix that shit as early in your age as possible. Trying to beat AA being in your 30+ is really painful. I only approached two girls. I'm not happy for myself at all. Shitty weather today, bad mood, I found myself wussing out massively. I made tons of mistakes today. 1st girl) Hotness: HB 5,5 Height: shorter than me Location: bus station My first attempt. Tiny girl, a bit shy, but i was even more shy......"Hey can i have your number?" in a meek way. She looked at me for a couple of seconds then she said no, I barely heard her....."Ok, have a good day" and I moved on...... Result: No number 2nd girl) Hotness:HB 7 Height: on my height Location: street She was walking on the pavement speaking to her phone. Once she come to me at a close distance, i locked my eyes to her throwing the "Hey, can I have your number?", she looked at me for a split second and ignored me.....I got butthurt from this. Quite butthurt. Result: No number Lesson learned: when you almost haven't approached a single girl in your entire life and you try to beat AA being a highly nervous guy, the last thing you want is to fix that shit by approaching HB8s, HB9s, models and similar "out of your league" frumenty......Last time i do this. I failed to stick to my goal of approaching 5 chicks. Tomorrow is the second day. I will continue, although the challenge seems to be harder than I expected and I have 29 more days to come. I must approach 5 girls even if it will be completely mechanically. |
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Congrats man, you did the first step, it's a very good start. Keep at it and be consistent.
Note : you most likely will have zero number from just "Hey, can I have your number ?". But I think it's the correct approach to start. Just stick to your simple repeatable approach and focus on beating your approach anxiety. Just telling you that so you're not disappointed with the results.
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Exactly. The 2nd goal is almost a theoretic situation. I shouldn't have written it. The super primary goal is to destroy AA, and this is why I believe that a minimalist but highly repeatable and straight-to-the-point line which doesn't cause overthinking or force me to waste my time with time-suck girls is the best approach. Chris is a genius !
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Your effort is commendable.
I think the issue with bare minimum game is that it is not efficient at all. Very low rates of success, which discourages newbies, but as a tool for learning, amazing. There is nothing simpler. Just don't get expectations. As long as you can do it for 30 days, which will be hard, but trust me is worth it, you can move for slightly more complicated approaches next month and so on. Keep pushing bro. 10 daygame lays ✔
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Day #2
Oh baby, oh baby, OH BABY !! I feel HAPPY and AWESOME ! What I did today !! Approached 8 chicks in a row .....5 for the today drill + the 3 remaining from yesterday !!! I'm coming straight from the streets. This would be the most important day of the challenge. Wussing out again today = no further drill . Before i got out of my home I looked on the mirror, slapped my face and said "Either you will do this, or come back and hang yourself " I got out of my home with the intention to approach the first girl I would see. It was a girl at a bus station. HB 3,5 - 4 fatty, but i didn't give a sense of shit, approached her, asked for her number, took a no ,and then moved on. After one block another girl at a bus station, again HB 5, asked her number, took a no, moved on. Walked for a little , I saw another girl again at a bus station (I live in a uiversity city), sun eyeglasses, a bit chubby with suntanned skin, I can't say exactly about the HB cause she was wearing sunglasses. Asked for her number, she said "I don't have card on my phone"....... NOW, in this case the experienced guy with social skills, would try to converse a bit more (the girl didn't say "No", she said "I don't have card" ), but, ok, as I said before the sole goal for today was to complete the challenge, Do 5 approaches and go back home. I said "ok, have a good day" and moved on. ![]() After that I was ON A BEST MODE ........fucking beast mode ! The only thing I remember is I made another 5 approaches. One of the girls was with her friend, slim, taller than me, I didn't wuss out. Another girl (the last) was also a bit taller than me blonde. I didn't wuss out again. Also one of the girls, once I asked "Can I have your number?", she made the cockblocking question "For what reason?"....... ![]() Result: 8 approaches - No number I feel awesome. I don't even feel butthurt at all. Quite the opposite. NEITHER GIRL WAS BITCHY ! But I understand that it isn't the hyper-aggro type of game. But, I don't care, I want to destroy AA first. Listen baby: The Mess is back on town ready to rock the universe ! Deal with that and suck it up !!!
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Nice bro, that's the spirit.
Curious if you will get even 1 number and when will it happen. 10 daygame lays ✔
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I'd have to guess that so long as you look good, it'll be likely that you will start getting numbers like this. However, there will be a lot of dead numbers.
One piece of advice to help you from getting too butthurt though; girls will always respond the way it's the easiest. For example, the girl who was walking on the pavement that ignored you... The way you wrote it sounds like you asked for the number while she was on the phone walking, so it's quite a lot to ask that she would stop, end the call and give you her number. It's much easier to just keep walking and keep talking on the phone, after all. Also, forget about your age. Beating AA at any age is extremely fucking painful. It's so painful that most guys can't handle it. In fact, almost no one can handle it at any age. Otherwise there would be hordes of players all around hitting on chicks everywhere. |
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Day #3
Awful day for me today. Awful mood.....come on, wtf? Compared to yesterday, today was black and white.......wtf? Sheep-mode today..... Really, I didn't feel good today. I approached 3 chicks almost found myself walking to them like a beggar...... I found myself wandering around the city centre like a desperate.....and this is something I DON'T WANT TO DO IT AGAIN NEVER EVER NEVER The whole energy thing is fucking true and solid. When you are on a shitty mood, everything goes wrong, Everything you do, everything you attract, is shitty as fuck. Approached 3 chicks one old bag and nonsexual after another.......The first gave me a No answer in a bit bitchy mood to be honest........ Guys, do you have any tips or shortcuts for those shitty days where your mood is on the floor in order to complete the daily drills at any rate ? Basically, I don't want ever again to find myself walking around the streets like a desperate trash. I will never do it again. Really. I failed to stick to my daily goal and I am pissed off as fuck. Result: 3 approaches - No number
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This is true !
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If you are in a bad mood it makes everything worse, you are correct.
I have some advice. The thing about bad mood is that it will happen. Many guys will tell you to try and make mood better, which fine, makes sense. But ... consider that what separates successful people from non-successful people, is that successful people stick to the program, EVEN IF IT SUCKS. I mean, think about it. Do you think businessmen feel good everyday ? No, but they march on regardless. One of the most important skills isn't to feel good, it's to succeed despite feeling like shit. When I was starting out I was often feeling like crap but I approached girls just because I had to. One of my player friends advised against mechanically approaching girls. He said "you must exude positive energy and make every approach interesting" or something of the kind. Over time he has been proven wrong on this, based on my personal experience. The dude did get laid, but doesn't have the success rate I have. I realized that approaching girls in a mechanical fashion, with an almost robotic voice, when you have no energy isn't that bad of a strategy for building up confidence. One thing I want you to understand is, right now you are not doing it to get laid, you are doing it for yourself so you will manage to get laid later. The goal isn't to actually get laid right now, it is to reduce anxiety. You will have plenty of time for getting laid later. Right now the goal is to harden yourself. And the only way to harden yourself is to do approaches WHEN YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE IT ! The approaches did reluctantly and were not that positive, have, in the long run, helped me the most. They built immunity to shitty mood. So my advice is this. Don't try to make every approach special. Do it mechanically, do it even if you feel like shit. Re-frame your goal from "wanting to feel good" and "getting laid RIGHT NOW" to "I am building immunity to shitty mood so I will be able to approach even when I feel like shit". Don't try to not feel like shit. Feel like shit and approach regardless, do it as mechanically as possible, if necessary. Complete your quota at all costs. Afterwards, expect to feel shitty, but tell yourself "I am proud for doing the task" and reward yourself with a chocolate or something every time you succeed. Your goal now is to strengthen yourself, so just accomplish your goal at all costs, even if you feel like shit and the approaches are meh. Once you're done, you might still feel shit. Know that this ok. Just keep doing it, trust me, you will build resistance, and at one point it will get better. Think of approaching right now like being a soldier in the battlefield. You have a task to complete. You run out of the trenches, you run past bullets, you shit your pants, but you get the job done. Afterwards you smoke a cigar in the trenches and whisky. Visualize that. Again, you are a soldier, your goal is to complete the task AT ALL COSTS, even if you feel like shit. IT IS OK TO FEEL LIKE SHIT. You have the permission to do so. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PERMISSION TO FAIL. Once you complete a task, reward yourself as you see fit. If you know it's ok to feel like shit and that you must do the task at all costs, then retreat stops being an option. Over time it will get better. But for know the task is not : to feel good, to be fun, to have good interactions. The task is to complete the goal and get out ASAP. Reach your goal at all costs, even if you feel like shit. Trust me it will get better over time. Visualize being a soldier in the battlefield with a mission he must complete at all costs. That's what helps me. And once you finish the task, don't focus on feeling good, focus on FEELING PROUD for completing the task. Good luck. You can push through, I feel it. 10 daygame lays ✔
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