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I've been fucking a girl some times lately, and I'm meeting a new girl at my place on monday.
- Both I met from cold-approaches. I'm slowly evolving to a player with an abundance of pussy. Even though there is a LONG way to the elite-level.
Problem is - most of the girls got this "boyfriend"-fantasy, and maybe they hope it can evolve from casual sex---> to serious monogamous relationship.
But in my mind, that is NOT gonna happen... I just wanna fuck and get experience.
I want to keep a rotation of girls around that I can fuck, while I try to screen girls in bars and night clubs to keep new girls coming in.
With the first girl I fucked I've been honest, and even though she appreciated it, and came by today - I can feel she is bit "dissapointed".
Should I give the girls "hope", even though there is absolutely no chance they are gonna get me for themselves??
So here are my questions:
What is the best strategy for keeping f-buddies around for several months?
Without much trouble or "define the relationship"-conversations??
00:00 New Tattoo
00:40 Introduction 'Retention' I know what I'm talking about on this one
01:15 Understand why 95% of girls will [non-verbal] agree to be your fuckbuddy
02:05 5% of the time it's just for sex
02:25 Boyfriend Potential (Player) vs. Boyfriend Material (Nice Guy)
02:45 Boyfriend Material (Nice Guy) Defined
03:20 Boyfriend Potential (Good Guy) Defined
04:00 Quick Talk on Scumbag
04:45 Girls love trying to convert players into boyfriends (and will be your fuckbuddy in the process)
05:20 If you've fucked a girl on the same night, or within a couple of meetups - she likely sees you are Boyfriend Potential (good)
05:50 Attractive Characteristics of Boyfriend Potential
06:50 Retaining the Top 5% Girls as fuckbuddies (Elite Guy, MAXED out looks, style, social freedom, top 5% lifestyle)
08:05 You can be an elite guy even if you don't have a lot accomplished yet (ambition)
08:30 Techniques to keep chicks as fuckbuddies (limit communication 2x/week or 3x/10 day)
09:20 Be busy or pretend to be busy to limit communication and look super cool
10:30 Bang the girl EVERYTIME you see her
11:05 Screening girls on approach limits the bullshit when they are your fuckbuddies
11:20 Bang them 1-2x a week (ideally)
11:55 Why to limit the communication... why this works...
12:35 Gotta give fuckbuddies some "progress"
13:20 Examples of "progress," small gestures that go along way because she likes you a lot
14:50 THE GIRL IS CHASING YOU FOR A RELATIONSHIP, YOU ARE SCREENING THE GIRL
15:20 Try to keep an open mind, who knows
16:00 For a solid relationship = make the girl chase you for >6 months
16:45 Why you need to be chased for >6 months
17:30 DTR (Define The Relationship) Discussion, don't YOU go there
18:25 When the girl brings up the DTR, how to handle it**
20:00 What to say to handle the DTR and kill it for a while, "disappointed" and talking politically correct circles
21:35 This works 99% of the time, it's worked for me 100% of the time actually++
... I'll do a full discussion on this later
***handling DTR discussions
1. let the chick talk
2. just repeat what she says, make her talk again and tire herself out
3. [if you need to] say "damn.. well... I gotta say.. I'm umm.. Kinda disappointed with this. Stuff is going really good between us.. right? I think so. It's moving along great. Right? Yeah I think so. I hate when it reaches a point when we need to put a title and expectations on stuff.. I'd rather it just reach that point naturally. I think it's probably headed that way, right? I mean I've thought about it. It's much more healthy to let things grow naturally, like we've been doing. This talk really upsets me cause things have been going so well." (the girl will feel guilty and back down on the DTR shit)
you can also say, "in past relationships, we put time limits, rules and titles on things.. it messed stuff up, I should have just let things evolve, thats what I'm worried about. Things are great between us and they are moving along naturally, trust me on this. I don't want to mess stuff up."
++ This seems to work so well because the girl seems to think that you guys reached the conclusion "its going great, lets let it play out" together.. its mutual. The reality is- you sorta did, even though you indirectly talked her into it for the "future of the relationship". A big part of it is- LET HER TALK and don't react to it. She doesn't actually want to "talk you into a relationship," she just wants to express herself. I have NEVER lost a fuckbuddy that I wanted to retain for at least 4 months. Most (that I wanted to retain) stuck around for 4-6 months. Some are available to this very day if I were to call them. You can temporarily lose the fuckbuddy (NOTHING IS PERMANENT, seriously) you just give them a call after she chills out and just meet up with her again and bang her.
This is really, really great stuff!
I'm confident this information will help me make my relationships with f-buddies last much longer than some weeks.
- In the past I havn't kept girls around for very long, hopefully this will change.
The "Boyfriend"-potential makes sense.
It maybe sounds ridicilous, but in the past the thought about being forced to become a "boyfriend" scared the hell out of me. Things like girls trying to hold my hand, inviting me to dinner, saying "sweet" things to me. - Makes me really uncomfortable, still to this day sometimes. I'm not 100% sure why, but I guess most girls dont fit in my "girlfriend"-potential criterias. So it's not genuine - only the sexual interest.
btw-- this is that kinda topic that the mainstream/fake pickup artists have NO IDEA about, no experience with
these questions, discussion and understanding of is what sets us (everyone here) apart from the rest of the universe
Yeah, it's another level.
the only thing you need to say (if asked) is-
jyou want to "hangout for now and see where it goes, because its lets things evolve naturally."
if she wants more explanation, this is it-
IM GOING TO GET TO KNOW YOU, YOU ARE GONNA GET TO KNOW ME. LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE. not like desparate people who want to get into a relationship so then can show everyone on facebook. because that shit will end in 10days"
every one of my healthy committed relationships were a product of getting to know the person
never one of my shitty committed relationship were a product of deciding to have a relationship before i knew the person
ANY AND ALL DTR (determine the relationship) talks basically give girls the power they dont want in the first place, there are some exceptions. avoid avoid avoid
EX. i party with a chick named paige who lives with her x boyfriend jake. i want to rock her world however... without her actually telling me, im sure she wants to leave her x to get with me but she cant leave him since she is financially unable to leave. this is NOT what i want but i do want sex coz im a horny mofo and shes sexy as fuck.
"IM GOING TO GET TO KNOW YOU, YOU ARE GONNA GET TO KNOW ME. LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE. not like desparate people who want to get into a relationship so then can show everyone on facebook. because that shit will end in 10days."
i know im guilty of being apart of gll community who takes information and run with it lol but this shit right here can basically be used on girls(WHO IM ALREADY FRIENDS WITH) who want an active relationship before they have had sex with you too right? the top example doesnt really matter i was just trying to make it clear.
i know pua bullshit would pretty much tell me to disappear from the chick for a few months and reappear this macho hunk lmaooooooooooooooooo!
Chris I dont understand how you go from being boyfriend material (point A) to a potential boyfriend (point when your huslting to get laid but your at point A (or at least somewhere in between A and . Wouldnt every girl you approach/screen just see you as a BF? how would you make that transition and get a rotation of girls going?
Hey Chris- there's a lot to it, but lets start at the beginning.
Boyfriend Material, per GLL definition, is a harmless nice guy. He is completely safe. Even girls that aren't that sexually active look at Mr. Boyfriend Material and think "this guy doesn't get laid too much". His style commonly includes tucked in shirts, non edgy jeans and no accessories.
Boyfriend Potential, per GLL definition, is a guy that looks like a player, like he fucks girls if he wants, looks like he's good in bed and has some edge to his look/style/walk (swag). But he [probably] has a sweet/good guy side where girls see him as potential boyfriend. These are the guys that girls OBSESS over, because they are a challenge to convert from a player to a boyfriend.
so style/looks is the first thing to look at, the first impression
if you are straight up approaching girls and touching them (even a little), naturally you'll drop a lot of the boyfriend material vibe, simply because you'll be less needy than the guy who can't approach women.
does that make sense
nobody here is really pure boyfriend material, just the fact that you guys read our disgusting,creepy site (haha) and picked up a few things... you won't be seen as [total] boyfriend material unless you dress super nice guy (see boyfriend material)
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