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On its face it sounds absurd for an untrained guy who is over thirty percent body fat to consider PED use. But I am leaning in this direction. Somewhat miraculously, my health profile isn't really bad at all, other than being overweight. My lipid levels, blood glucose, and blood pressure are all in range. I know if I diet and exercise correctly, the weight will surely come off. But I figure if I add PEDs into the mix I'll gain a shit ton of muscle while at it. Considering that I have already fallen victim to gyno, I just cant pinpoint any downsides. I need to start getting laid ASAP, and admittedly am looking for shortcuts.
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If you are 30%+ then you can't just say "if I diet and exercise correctly, the weight will surely come off" because clearly to this point you've proven you don't know what correct diet and exercise is.
I suggest you get those in check before you add PED's in. Use them as a plateau breaker, instead of as a crutch off the bat. You barely have muscle to hold onto as is, and you aren't going to be "gaining a shit ton of muscle" while you're in an extreme caloric deficit, even if you're a newbie. I suggest doing it naturally, then once you've plateaued throw them in, fat burners, etc. You're going to be wasting your money and health using them when you are at a stage where you don't need them at all yet to get the ball rolling.
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Depending on how big of a calorie deficit you are on, you can still gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. I certainly did for a good while. I was 38% BF at the start doing 60kg for 5 reps on the bench. Now in the mid 20's BF% doing 120kg for 3 reps. My squat and deadlift significantly improved as well. There definitely was some muscle gain in there, not just CNS adaption.
This was done over the last 6 months. I'll estimate my calorie deficit was on average at about 500-600 calories per day. I just followed intermittent fasting with if-it-fits-your macro protocol. On average took in about 100-130g of protein every day. Ate whatever the fuck I wanted after that lol. Trust me, this shit was easy and enjoyable. You just have to be okay with the fact that it will take some time. If you want faster results, there are "other" things you can do which doesn't involve PEDs. I'd suggest holding off the PEDs until you're in your teens with BF%. But, it is your life, and your body. Make sure to research properly beforehand.
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I ordered a few hundred dollars worth of ped's and arcilleries . For now at least, it looks like a big waste of money. I decided to just focus on losing the fat first. In reality I think I just pussied out. If I would've chosen to cycle for 3 or 4 month, I know I would be looking great by then. I guess no harm no foul.
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