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Starting a thread to decide on 2019 goals. Money goals and whether or not I should have "girl" goals
First, HOW MUCH MONEY DO I NEED?
So right now I'm making good progress in the money department . This has had a huge positive impact on my self esteem, on getting me out of a depressive state, has made me feel more capable and like a man. So I'm still sticking with my goal of 20k saved... and I will hit that around may or so I think. I plan on staying at this job at least until August and can possibly save up to 30k total. BUT THEN WHAT?
So my long term plan is to get back to Thailand under better circumstances with this bank roll. Once there I want to take some time to learn Thai and also to start learning how to tattoo. In the future I definitely want tattooing to be at least a side source of income for me. This is what I really want to do and focus on. The whole idea is to live on the cheap in Thailand off of these savings while I learn. I'm 39 y.o. with a ton of education and degrees and I really just want to learn how to tattoo. I will be good at it and I really want to give people that great feeling after they get a sick tattoo and want to show it to everyone.
So the problem is... HOW MUCH MONEY DO I NEED TO GO LEARN TO TATTOO? Right now I'm debating on checking out of this job and going in August with my 25k-30k saved. the other option would be to stay at this job longer to build a bigger bank roll. That would give me more security. If I were to stay an entire second year (until August of 2020) I'm pretty sure I could get to 70k in savings since I would be traveling more and making more money at that job. It's a tough debate since this job has a decent risk of injury and the longer I wait the longer I'm not working toward what I really want to do and be.
I'm really kinda thinking that my strategy should be... AS SOON AS I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO IT, I'LL QUIT MY JOB. Last year I lived in Thailand it was totally possible for me to live comfortably on a grand a month. So 25k basically represents two years cost of living... but I would plan on working at least a bit in Thailand. Because other costs like travel and visas and shit add up. I would love to be able to work in Thailand and not have to teach. Or even work seasonally back in the USA from time to time to fund my shit. And of course eventually get some income from tattooing, and move back to the USA to do that. Or even stay there for awhile and do tattoos.
I want to go to Thailand again because of quality of life, ease of getting laid, culturally it's awesome, and because I can take a whole year to try and learn to tattoo and not spend that much money. Plus, Thai people like westerners, young thais think tattoos are cool (even though their parents hate them of course) and they see all the westerners with tattoos. They kinda look up to westerners in the sense of having more swag/coolness. It's funny but I think this is a factor that can work in my favor... I really think I can find people to give tats to even when I'm just starting out and not an expert. So this is a huge factor. Starting to do tattoos in the USA is harder because there are so many artists and quality artists and so many people that want to learn. With how easy it is for white guys to meet chicks on Tinder in Thailand I could probably learn from just tattooing tinder chicks I date lol.
Anyway... MY WHOLE 20K GOAL IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO DO WHAT I WANT.
It's funny... I've wanted to become a tattoo artist since 2015 deep down but haven't done it... because of different reasons and also different excuses.
SO WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK... IS 25K-30K ENOUGH TO GIVE THIS A SHOT? OR SHOULD I BUILD AN EVEN BIGGER WAR CHEST?
SHOULD I EVEN HAVE GIRL GOALS FOR 2019?
This is a topic that crosses my mind because I'm working a ton (some two week periods I'll be working over 140 hours... maybe up to 200 hours) and I'm really interested in chasing girls even though I kinda miss it from time to time. Truthfully with how much I travel it would be nice to have a plain old g.f. for when I'm home. But even that I'm not really motivated to get because I'm really just counting down my time until I bail and do what I want.
THE PROBLEM IS I'M BURNT OUT FROM HITTING ON CHICKS. It's not fun anymore, and I don't even know if I want to find the motivation.
A little bit of history on me since I've never been super active on this forum.
39 y.o. , 50+ lifetime lays (which isn't really that many since I've been sexually active for 22 years) , 13 "GLL" lays since 2015 (5 same day, 3 chicks in a month a couple times, fuckbuddies). Basically what I do is go hard for a bit, bring a couple girls into my life, then cruise and have long term fuckbuddies & quasi girlfriends. So I'm not an elite player or anything but I can approach chicks and can get laid from cold approach and online.
Problem is right now I simultaneously want to get laid and want to just not worry about chicks at all. I've basically taken a break from girls since August and have made more progress with money and feel way better about myself for having done it. Now I'm thinking it's time to add a girl into my life. Even if it's just temporary until I leave. Only problem is like I've stated above I'm burnt out on cold approach, sick of online also tbh. So maybe I just continue this break, suck it up for a year, hammer out my real goal.
SO AM I JUST MAKING EXCUSES IN THIS AREA OF MY LIFE?
To my credit... in the past it's always taken a couple weeks to a month for cold approach and online prospects to come through... right now I travel so much for work I'm like fuck it... I won't even really have time to follow up with chicks. For example in January I'm only going to be in the USA for 9 days. So I'm like what's the fucking point. The travel combined with all the hours makes me want to not be too hard on myself in this area of my life.
SHOULD I GO BACK TO PRE-GLL LOOKING FOR A GIRLFRIEND GAME
Prior to GLL I got laid some through cold approach... it was just safe looking for a girlfriend game. I would just talk to girls, move slow, eventually become her boyfriend and then get sex. I wasn't aggressive, I didn't hit on a lot of girls, but from time to time I'd meet a girl. It didn't require a lot of effort but I would get dates some. Believe it or not I'm just thinking of maybe just doing this from time to time. Problem with this is the whole time element... I really don't have the time to go on multiple dates with travel. Or if I do... the girl just has to understand that I'm out of town.
IN CLOSING... I ALSO DON'T WANT TO FUCK A HOOKER IN SINGAPORE SINCE SAVING MONEY IS MY NUMBER 1 GOAL LOL.
- check out how much it costs to buy all the equipment needed to start tattooing
- add roughly 200$ to your monthly budget in Thailand for visa stuff and the traveling that needs to be done to get the visa stuff sorted. You also don't want to forget health insurance. All it takes is one accident in Thailand without health insurance and all your savings are gone.
Also, I guess you already know that, but as soon as you charge money for your tattoo services in Thailand, you are doing something illegal. So you should definitely keep it very low profile and make sure to not piss off any customers or other tattoo artists who could rat you out to the immigration police.
There is a very big tattoo scene in Bangkok with tattoo conventions all over the city a couple of times a year. A friend of my mine is good friends with some of the most popular tattoo shop owners on Khaosan Road. So I would say they are very open to foreigners who show honest interest in their work. Just be prepared to drink a lot with them.
Another "in" would be to hang out in hostels or very popular backpacker places in Southeast Asia. That's exactly the crowd that would want a free tattoo from someone who is still practicing. Besides Bangkok, other popular places are Pai & Chiang Mai in the North of Thailand, all the party islands in the South, Vang Vieng in Laos, and Siem Reap in Cambodia. So when you have to do a visa run, you should definitely check out those places.
Regarding girls: you probably won't like it, but it would be a good idea to get a Thai girlfriend (at least in the beginning) if you want to take this tattoo thing seriously. It will make it much easier to find people who want tattoos and also to break into Thai social circles in the tattoo scene. I am pretty sure if you befriend some of the shop owners, they would love to teach you how to tattoo and maybe even let you use their equipment. As far as I know, there are also some foreigners working in the tattoo shops who you could ask for advice.
@nsa good point it sounds like I'm just trying to convince myself
@agf yeah need to consider those in budget. Yeah technically illegal but can totally get away with it. A lot of foreigners are working illegally and for the most part no big deal. In worst case scenario bribes are common also... also thanks for suggestions on getting into tattoo scene
So basically I need to keep going to primary goal and also define my plan.
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