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I want to give you the mindsets and mentalities that go hand-in-hand with the "Screening" GET LAID 'game' that we embrace and encourage.
If there is any single word that represents the style, techniques, mindsets (and lifestyle) that we have, it would be- AGGRESSIVE.
In terms of hitting on chicks, in short, being "AGGRESSIVE" means sexually-charged dialogue and physical advances. The latter (physical advances) is more important. Everything else is simply small talk. Touching chicks early and often will tell you if she is sexually available and potentially DTF. It's specifically meant to "screen out" the girls that aren't sexually available. In my opinion and experience, it is by far the most efficient and productive style and mindset if you are trying to Get Laid.
Though all the guys we have worked with over the past 2.5 years have different starting points, styles, looks, issues and mindsets- my job is usually the same-
1) Teach them the easiest possible framework to Get Laid on a regular basis and NOTHING more.
2) Clean out ALL of the bullshit, inefficient, unproductive and largely ineffective mentalities/techniques that clutter their brain and slow down their progress and results.
This discussion on "Be Aggressive, Don't Worry About Being Smooth," is characteristic of this.
What is Being Smooth?
Most guys, whether community guys or "normal" (haha) guys, have some sort of definition, image or preconceived notion of what "being smooth" is. There's no official definition, so I'll make one up- 'being smooth' [as related to mainstream 'game'] is interacting verbally and non-verbally with a girl you want to bang while seemingly avoiding mistakes, noticeable awkwardness and rejection, and ideally displaying masculine qualities such as leadership and confidence.
What's the Problem with Trying to Be Smooth?
If you know what GoodLookingLoser.com is all about (screening), you'll probably know right away why I'm not really a fan of telling guys they "need" to be smooth, especially when they are just starting out. Masculine qualities, leadership and confidence is fine. The rest of it is largely 'safe game'. Safe game doesn't get you laid.
Being smooth, in itself, is certainly not a bad thing.
Trying to be smooth, however, when you should be trying to be aggressive, will slow down your results and development.
Here's why-
The entire idea of 'being smooth' is not quite focused on our goal- GETTING LAID. While it's not completely non-congruent, the whole idea of 'being smooth' or 'trying to be smooth' encourages a lot of mindsets and behaviors that I'm trying to erase from your brain.
For one, "being smooth," encourages 'I Hope She Likes Me' game, where your mindset and the actions which follow are meant to get the girl to "like" you, thereby avoiding or delaying rejection. There are numerous problems with this type of mindset. The biggest one is it keeps you from being aggressive in an attempt to avoid or delay rejection. Also significant- it doesn't shed any light on if the girl is sexually available. You need to be aggressive and find sexually available girls if you are going to Get Laid a lot. There's about 789 other problems with the 'I Hope She Likes Me' approach and mindset. Mr. Smooth is usually [trying to be] smooth to impress the girl, usually it's not even his personality (sometimes it is), but 95% of guys trying to be smooth are doing so to get the girl to like them. They'd be better off being aggressive than trying to be smooth, they would get MUCH further MUCH faster. They'd also learn more along the way. It's hard to be aggressive when you focused on being smooth.
Second, "being smooth," doesn't necessarily help you Get Laid. Authentic finesse, or LEGITIMATELY being smooth and physical, can help you Get Laid, but it's not really necessary. If you are smooth, able to seemingly avoid mistakes, awkwardness and rejection- it is meaningless unless you have a legitimate physical sexual dialogue with the girl. If you are "sloppy" and not smooth, but you have an increasingly physical sexual dialogue with the girl, you are on your way to banging her.
I thought about it recently. I've gotten drunk, been discoordinated, been sloppy and nailed more girls than I can (literally) remember. I've also been Mr. Smooth, witty, quick on my feet and had interactions go absolutely nowhere simply because there was no physical dialogue and for all I know- the girl wasn't even sexually available to me or anyone else. It's hard to be aggressive when you focused on being smooth.
Third, also related to the previous two points, being [or trying to be] smooth, discourages proactive leadership. You will often be on the girl's timetable, waiting for signs and permission to escalate physically or verbally on the girls. 99% of the time, if you are strictly abiding by the girl's timetable, you aren't going to be moving very fast. If you are busy "being smooth," in a natural attempt to avoid rejection, you will often be less proactive and less physically assertive. Trying to be smooth will make you play "safe game" and safe game doesn't get you laid. In order to Get Laid a lot, you need to fully embrace the masculine leadership role and have the girl follow. It's hard to be proactive when you focused on being smooth.
Why Do Guys Think They Need To Be Smooth?
A general misunderstanding of how to Get Laid makes a lot of guys feel that they have to be smooth. I think this is reinforced by the numerous examples in scripted Hollywood movies that try to depict masculine men. Hollywood shows [generally good looking] men "smoothly" interacting with women that already like them and are sexually available. It's not that these examples are totally "wrong," they just don't translate into the aggressive mindsets that are needed to bang HOT girls on a regular basis.
Another reason is that "being smooth" reflects confidence and alpha male qualities. While this is true, so does being aggressive.
How Can I Be Aggressive and Smooth?
Again, 'being smooth' isn't "wrong," it's just not the first priority.
One thing to keep in mind is 'being smooth' is not a mindset, technique or style.
Being smooth is simply a product of LEGIT experience of having and executing a repeatable game plan over-and-over.
This is true of nearly anything skill that looks 'smooth' or effortless.
I like to give sports examples.
If you've ever seen an Olympic swimmer, they look 'smooth' as they swim through the water. They move fast, not a wasted motion, not a breath too many- it's incredible. The only reason they are able to do this is because they have done it 10,000 times in the exact same, repeatable manner. They aren't trying to be smooth, what you are seeing is simply a product of executing a repeatable game plan over-and-over. It is a product of experience, it is not a technique.
This case might be obvious but the same holds true for hitting on girls. It's simply experience and a game plan at work.
I like this baseball example-
The best [most smooth] swing I have EVER seen was that of Ken Griffey Jr.
Needless to say, Ken Griffey Jr. hit a lot of home runs. This was his natural swing from the first time he picked up a baseball bat at 6 years old. He wasn't actively trying to be smooth, he is just repeating a swinging motion that he had done for 30 years.
At the same time, there's guys that hit a lot more home runs than Ken Griffey Jr. They didn't have as smooth/pretty of a swing, but they hit the ball harder and farther than Griffey Jr. If they had tried to be more smooth, they wouldn't have been hitting as many home runs. There's a lot of guys that have a very smooth swing that can't hit the ball out of the infield.
It doesn't matter how it "looks," what matters is the RESULT.
Parallel to this is picking up girls- I know a lot of "Mr. Smooth" guys that don't Get Laid that much, they play it safe and aren't physically assertive. I know a lot of sloppy "naturals" that can get HOT bubble ass every other day because they are aggressive. Don't mistake "smooth" for good. Sometimes a smooth guy is legitimately good, but sometimes he is not.
While you're figuring stuff out, being physically aggressive and figuring out your style and not focusing being "Mr. Smooth," will give you faster progress. Smooth might look good and prevent/delay rejection, but being aggressive gets you laid.
Don't be smooth, Get Laid.
In order to "get smooth," you simply have to figure out, refine and embrace your style while being physically aggressive and do it a bunch of times. This sometimes involves trying new things, purely for experimentation.
My Style (and Scotty's Too)
A lot of my friends have remarked that I'm 'smooth' when they see me moving fast with chicks. Again, what they are seeing is a product of experience, not techniques at work or an active effort to be smooth. Grabbing a girl's hair and pulling it or telling her my dick is big isn't exactly Mr. Smooth game.
Also, both Scotty and I have a "Laid-Back but Physically Aggressive" style, this is sometimes confused for "being smooth" or having a "smooth" game. It's NOT being smooth, it's simply experience and having a game plan. You don't need to be "Laid-Back but Physically Aggressive" to be smooth, you just need to develop your own thing and repeat it over-and-over.
Being Smooth Isn't In Your Control 90% Of The Time
Yet another reason I don't want you to focus on being smooth is- it's out of your control most of the time.
If a girl isn't sexually-available your interaction isn't likely to go super smooth.
I saw a good example of this about a year ago at this exclusive club (Playhouse) in Hollywood. I saw a seemingly "super smooth" good looking guy, who probably gets a reasonable amount of ass, approach a super hot girl. He did his little thing and the girl wasn't very receptive, she kept looking elsewhere for someone to come and "save her". The guy, who already had 2 or 3 other girls checking him out, got frustrated and told the girl, "fuck you," and walked off. It wasn't his fault though. How do I know? The girl wasn't sexually available that night. How do I know? Cause I was already fucking her and she came and was going home with me. It had nothing to do with him. Same thing probably would have happened to me if I approached his girl.
What's the saying? "It takes two, to tango...?"
Smooth interactions are a product of experience, a repeatable game plan, the girl being sexually available and also a uncontrollable/unpredictable personality chemistry between you and the girl. Half of that is completely out of your control and 90% of the time it's nothing you could have controlled in the first place.
What The Hell Is This "Game Plan" That You Keep Talking About?
I'm going to expand on this another time. In short, you should have a repeatable game plan EVERY TIME you go out to Get Laid. Having a game plan will take out the guesswork of 'what to do next'. You can be on auto-pilot and stay focused on your goal- GETTING LAID. If you stick to this game plan, your interactions will go/look smooth if the girl is sexually available. The game plan will vary upon your logistics but it's generally the SAME EXACT blueprint.
In general, here's my game plan if I'm trying to Get Laid (in this example, I'm going to this bar that is within walking distance of my place on Sunset Blvd. where I pulled over 30 girls from in a 6-month period)-
1. Approach a girl I want to plow
2. Touch her on the wrist, smile, say the line "Hey, I don't do this too often, but I thought you were attractive and I wanted to come see what you were like."
3. Introduce myself
4. Shake her hand, get her name
5. Bodyguard routine
6. Small Talk
7. Grab her bicep "you gotta a license for those guns?"
8. Small Talk
9. Spin her around and slap her ass
10. Tell her, it's hot, let's go over here (grab her hand and start walking to a private place, which I found ahead of time)
11. Small Talk, Get more physical
12. Kiss her
13. Tell her, it's hot, lets go for a walk
14. Walk right out the front door in the direction of my place
15. Touch her and makeout along the way
16. Tell her, I'm going to grab a drink so I don't spend money at the bar, I'll make you a small one too
17. Take her inside, put her on my bed (either get the drinks or not)
18. Fuck her silly
That seems like a lot of steps, but it's basically just 4 steps- Screen, Escalate, Isolate+Escalate, Leave.
The rest is just details.
It's nothing I even have to remember or memorize. I've done it in 3 steps too- Screen, Escalate, Leave.
Keep in mind this can happen VERY QUICKLY. Sometimes in a matter of 15-20 minutes. The girl is just following along. Since I have a game plan- I look smooth, quick, spontaneous and masculine. Again, she doesn't usually resist since I was pretty aggressive and screened her up front with all the physical stuff. I've repeated this more times than I can remember (I guessed >30) when I lived just off Sunset Blvd. The game plan lets me stayed focus and takes out the guesswork.
Having a game plan can make stuff go smoothly. It also seems spontaneous to the girl and allows you to lead the way, often very quickly. If you execute your game plan, don't be surprised if the girl tells you that you are "smooth," when in reality it's mainly a product of having experience and a game plan. Emotionally healthy hot chicks love being fucked by a seemingly "smooth" guy, so don't tell them otherwise :)
I'll talk more about game plans and logistics later.
Putting together a game plan in advance will help things go smoothly and take out the guesswork.
If you have some good interactions and you're 'smooth'... cool. If not, it doesn't really matter because that's not your focus anyway.
Focus on being AGGRESSIVE, don't worry about being smooth.
Jaime Says-- SCREEN ME!!!
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Chris, I do have a repeatable game plan, but since I don't live anywhere near a bar or club, my game plan looks significantly different than yours. Perhaps you can help me out with some comments? Here's how mine works -- I still do day game...
Chris, I do have a repeatable game plan, but since I don't live anywhere near a bar or club, my game plan looks significantly different than yours. Perhaps you can help me out with some comments? Here's how mine works -- I still do day game exclusively at a mall:
1) Open by saying she's cute, and then saying that she's really attractive, and I want to see what she's like in bed (combo of screening and Apocalypse opener). Do you want to come home with me tonight? (let her reply, whatever it is, doesn't matter -- so long as she doesn't leave)
2) Shake her hand, hold it. Keep eye contact. Say she has soft hands. Try to kiss it (like royalty), if she continues holding on. Move into her personal space by getting next to her. If she's leaning against something like a bar top or bench, step next to her and place my arm behind/around her back or waist area.
3) Small talk about where she's from, what she does, etc.
4) Ask her for her hand to compare finger lengths. Show her how long mine are by pressing against her palm. Then clasp her hand, see if she retracts or leaves. If not, say something about how warm her hands are.
5) Make plans for dinner that night or the night after. Then say, "OK, gimme your number so that I can stay in touch with you." (put phone in her hand).
6) Try to kino as much as possible during dinner. Maybe a peck on the cheek or her shoulder. Maybe get to know her better too. Then suggest a walk in the park right after dinner to "digest" the food -- always works so far.
7) My car's parked in the park, so I'll go, "Hey, you mind if I check something in my car? I left something valuable there, and I need to make sure it's there." It's dark and quiet usually. Very.
Actually check my stuff by opening the glove compartment. Grab some drinks from my drink holder (cold beers usually), tell her to join me for "music and drinks" compliments of myself.
9) Escalate in car. I have fucked a girl on Day 2 before in a car, so hopefully I can somehow bypass the "bring girl home" stage. My logistics are really poor, so bringing them back is going to be a challenge. Plus, if she drove there, she probably doesn't want to go too far away from her car.
What do you think of my game plan? Workable? How would you improve it? I have of course tried it many times, though girls usually drop out around stages 2/8/9. If they make it through 2, they usually also make it to 8 or 9 (though my sample size so far has been small, maybe it's just a coincidence).
im going to do Youtube vid for you on these specifics-
my keyboard is acting weird
sit tight
oh make sure [if] you reply to the video-- reply on this thread... i dont answer/look at the youtube messages!
video won't be visible to the public.....
im going to do Youtube vid for you on these specifics-
my keyboard is acting weird
sit tight
oh make sure [if] you reply to the video-- reply on this thread... i dont answer/look at the youtube messages!
video won't be visible to the public.. just via the link here
oh you may want to look at this
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2011/12/30/what-if-i-approached-100-hot-chicks-would-i-get-any-pussy-a-closer-look/
i have a generic gameplan in there too... no club/bar nearby necessary
okay, in general the plan is workable.. but I think you might be making things more difficult than need be
what are you logistics? can you not have the girl come over, or go to her place?
also have some thoughts on the approach
how many times...
okay, in general the plan is workable.. but I think you might be making things more difficult than need be
what are you logistics? can you not have the girl come over, or go to her place?
also have some thoughts on the approach
how many times have you tried this? i mean, if its working- do it
my job to help you get laid often, in the most productive and efficient way.. so i dont want you making it more complicated than it needs to be
if you are able to ask a girl "do you want to sleep with me?" and she says "yes"... (ive never done that in those exact words) go ASAP somewhere with her... don't kino, small talk or kick game at her for a second longer. i suggest in the video to TELL don't ask.. and unless you have someplace to go with her ASAP, I suggest not asking about sex in the first 30seconds.. all the non-verbal stuff communicates sexual interest... verbally talking about it use sets off the slut defense. you gotta STRIKE when the sexual tension is high.. and days between her saying 'yes I will fuck you" kills the sexual vibe
heres the vid- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DiennUl-ss
Chris, thanks very much for the video. I watched it, and I'm getting ideas. No girl actually says "I'll go home with you," but enough actually stay back and continue the conversation. Most, who stay on, just laugh or make meta-comments like "Do...
Chris, thanks very much for the video. I watched it, and I'm getting ideas. No girl actually says "I'll go home with you," but enough actually stay back and continue the conversation. Most, who stay on, just laugh or make meta-comments like "Do you do that all the time?" or "What? Hell no." in a playful way. The reason I use a big opener is that I'm still getting ideas from girls that I just want to hang out with them or get their numbers because they're cute/pretty/attractive, not that I want to sleep with them (which is all I care about, I don't care about hanging out with them or getting their numbers). Somehow I've encountered some girls who are receptive or at least non-resistant to kino, but when I go further and push it some more in privacy, they resist, and they mean business -- not like some LMR/ASD stuff, but they're actually not DTF. I guess I feel the need communicate clearly that, "I'm talking to you to get laid, you down?" not "I want to just date you and kiss you." That's different.
Logistics = I rent a room from my folks. Nearest mall is 15 minutes, nearest bar/club is perhaps 45 minutes. Nowhere else of interest basically within distance. I really hope it can start at my place and end at mine, but it probably won't work out (the girls I've brought back so far don't actually want to be seen by my folks, and they probably only go there because they think I live on my own; my folks have no problem with it at all though). Going to their place is usually out of question, because girls here live with their parents until they get married.
I may have the opportunity of restructuring my logistics, so this point might change soon. I should be able to get a place right downtown, not the suburbs, so maybe that will help me out. Anyhow, thank you for taking the time to give a response -- really appreciate that. I'm reworking my game plan and trying it out tonight or tomorrow. Thanks!
okay cool, keep us updated..
step back for a second and think... What you couldn't speak... how would you communicate (without going way over the top) that you wanted SEX and probably nothing else? take that non-verbal communication into your...
okay cool, keep us updated..
step back for a second and think... What you couldn't speak... how would you communicate (without going way over the top) that you wanted SEX and probably nothing else? take that non-verbal communication into your game. the rest can be mainly small talk... touching a girl is worth = 10,000 words
i like your logistics better than your - dinner to car plan (although that aint bad).. Scotty have bang 100+ chicks with his parents home... He just has the place set up and bring girls in.. and walks right by
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Your stuff seems to get you low quality women (I don't speak about appearance). Not relationship material for sure, because how anyone would want to be with women that is are available (15-20 mins) and not needing any emotional attachment to have...
Your stuff seems to get you low quality women (I don't speak about appearance). Not relationship material for sure, because how anyone would want to be with women that is are available (15-20 mins) and not needing any emotional attachment to have sex? It is against mans nature big time. But I guess when you learn to get sex like that other kind of screening for girlfriend becomes easier and will require other game plan?
thanks for your questions (btw-- I'm not mad at all in my reply.. even though it might seem that way --
Just wanted to say- the stuff on this site isn't for everyone. the last thing I'm going to do is try to cater to everyone.. this the GET...
thanks for your questions (btw-- I'm not mad at all in my reply.. even though it might seem that way --
Just wanted to say- the stuff on this site isn't for everyone. the last thing I'm going to do is try to cater to everyone.. this the GET LAID stuff, I try not to get away from. from a potential relationship prospective- i encourage guys to be sleeping with a girl for 4-6 month before committing. this makes sure you get to know her, there's a chase period where she wants commitment but you don't just yet... she has to earn the relationship. usually its the other way around, the guy is trying to "lock down" the girl in 1 week because he is insecure. as you know, if you can get laid, you can likely have a GF/fuckbuddy/one night stand/wife/etc. -- but if you can't there are far far far less options. most guys need to be in relationship to get regular sex.
you'd have to see and know the women I've dated/slept with to judge their quality. a lot of highly educated, financially independent, emotionally stable, in good shape and just get horny like any other girl. Some are very inexperienced and just let me lead the way. Others were fairly experience. They don't get approached aggressively usually. I also bang virgins. A lot of guys like to judge the quality of a girl by the # of guys she's slept with. I don't and the girls know that pretty quickly. The 2 girls i've been in committed relationships with since I started picking up chicks- didn't sleep with me on the first night. I have no problem sleeping with women who I don't have an emotional attachment with, they are hot and horny.. just like me. It's a mutually fun experience, neither of us are looking for a life partner in the process.
It's easy to say- this stuff only works on SLUTS.. or this stuff only does this.. or this stuff only does that...
from my experience, displaying masculine traits, igniting sexual tension and taking the 100% lead is attractive in nearly all emotionally healthy girls.
at the same time, this "stuff" doesn't work on EVERY girl... its not supposed to.. and that is precisely the point :)
that said, I leave it to the individual to determine was he wants... fuckbuddies, one-night stands, girlfriend, etc.
the 'get laid' skill set can get all that more. you'll just have to take my word for it that- being aggressive doesn't only get "Sluts"
Thanks for the reply, and I don't feel that you are mad or something By saying that they are not high quality I only meant that they have big potential of being unfaithful not their bad education, low intelligence etc. I should expand on my...
Thanks for the reply, and I don't feel that you are mad or something By saying that they are not high quality I only meant that they have big potential of being unfaithful not their bad education, low intelligence etc. I should expand on my post, so.... Lets consider something. You met two girls. Equaly hot, great personalities and as you found out later, both equaly great in bed. You know both of them are realy attracted by the display of your maculine energy and personality. There is only one difference: First goes with you into bed after 1hr, second one is trying to halt her impulses as long as she can (2nd, 3rd date). You were looking at girlfriend at the moment. Which one would you choose if they were exacly the same minus time to sex? I would choose that one with greater mastery over her impulses. I think most men also want to be with women that is not govened by her primal desires (you know, safer to leave for few days, less possibility of raising some bastard like some 10% of "fathers" do).
More important is that in real world that second one would probably reject you because you may not be equaly trustworthy type yourself. Player vibe = Not a boyfriend material. So most girls I would get using your agressive approach would be the ones not in sync with my criteria. But if I approached them screening for not giving me their ass fast they would not give me ass on purpose (even those easy ones) if they saw me as potential boyfriend material. I don't want to be played by girls, but I don't know how to play it either. They have tactical advantage because they do not initiate things and can act accordingly with their intrest (not always mine). I don't know what is solution. Maybe being less agressive and not giving up on girls that are harder to get? But being less agressive would not weed out realy easy ones either like I said. On the other hand texting them like "hey sexy biatch" would be also bad for me because I am not only about sex and it would miss-represent my personality. Fucked up place to be huh?
And thank you for response again
I actually thought about this. Thanks for clearing things up. But one question:
Do I have to isolate? What if I want to fuck her in front of everyone? There were moments I wanted to do that. Isolating seems a bit smooth, or will more girls back...
I actually thought about this. Thanks for clearing things up. But one question:
Do I have to isolate? What if I want to fuck her in front of everyone? There were moments I wanted to do that. Isolating seems a bit smooth, or will more girls back off if I don't isolate her?
I didn't think the "Get Hung" guide would have girls eyeing my bulge. It did.
I didn't think that your exercise and diet advice would have girls checking me out. It did.
I DEFINITELY didn't think that your hair-loss prevention would fix my hairline. Not in a billion years. It mother fucking did. You saved me a crazy amount of time, a ton of money, unnecessary pain, and destroyed my #1 source of anxiety. DESTROYED IT.
Kratom is next!
To anyone reading this, follow through, read this material, APPLY this material, and enjoy life.
Thanks again Chris, life would suck without you.
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