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We'll have our second professional pick up video out very soon, lets say - 10 days?
The video will feature aggressive screening at night.
As of now, this video is the only "night game" video we have from inside a bar.
Anywho...
Below we have a checklist to see where you stand with your social anxiety and if you might benefit from professional help or what your next course of action should probably be.
You don't necessarily have to go out to do any drills (although you certainly could) - you should know right away what is "doable" and what will be difficult.
It helps to be honest with yourself.
These "drills" are meant to be done ALONE.
There can be a world of difference between your social freedom while rolling solo and your social freedom when you have drunk friends egging you on.
Lets define Social Anxiety.
It's Hard for Psychiatrists to Understand You
If you have or think you have social anxiety, I recommend that you speak to a medical professional.
I recommend this because -
Most people that don't - end up doing absolutely nothing and anxiety presides over their entire life.
Whether they know it or not, their anxiety affects their sex life, social life, career choices and even their relationships with [safe] people they are close to.
Consciously or subconsciously, many people purposely pick stereotypical "introverted" career paths (working on computers, for example) to avoid social situations.
Sometimes they think they "chose" their career but the fact of the matter is - it choose them.
So consider seeing a specialist -
You have NOTHING TO LOSE - minus the co-pay.
Still, I totally understand the limitations that a visit to a psychiatrist can have.
THEIR GOAL is to make you/give you something so that you are reasonably comfortable in social situations and don't constantly isolate yourself.
(get blood work done to detect endocrine problems before you are prescribed any medications)
YOUR GOAL is to get comfortable enough to meet a ton of women and have the Killer Instinct to take them home within 45 minutes.
It's not the same thing.
It's two different universes.
I urge you to take one thing at a time though.
If you are ever you are to become "that guy" that can sleep with 3 or 4 new women a week, you are going to have to become "that guy" that can feel normal around strangers.
"That guy" needs to be able to chill out.
If you have social anxiety - that is your #1 goal.
Once you've achieved that, you can think about starting the Approach Anxiety Program or doing some Basic/Nervous Guy Game.
Over the years, from working with some people in-person and observing obvious trends on our forum, I have a pretty good idea about who needs professional help and who is just inexperienced or just needs a kick in the ass (or structured program).
Remember, all guys have some amount of social anxiety.
This is normal.
Very few guys can walk up to hot girls and talk to them without being under the influence, especially in "non-social" settings.
I'd say - only 1 or 2% of guys can do that.
If you can do that pretty comfortably, you already have above-average social freedom.
Here are some basic tests so you can see if you have an over amount of social anxiety that might require professional help.
(I am not a doctor, this is not an adequate substitute for advice from a real psychiatrist)
Seeking professional help may be beneficial if you cannot do these BY YOURSELF in a sober state-
Remember - ALL these drills are meant to be done BY YOURSELF, not with a friend(s) who's "mere presence" provides additional social freedom or security.
How Did You Do? (BE HONEST)
- I can do all 25, by myself, without much hesitation.
You are fine.
You might benefit from the later Approach Anxiety Drills, but you should try doing some Basic Guy or Nervous Guy Game until you are ready for Screening.
- I can do all 25, by myself, with some hesitation.
You are fine too.
Don't convince yourself that you have social anxiety or are a special basketcase.
You might have some Approach Anxiety but that is normal too.
- I can do 20-25, by myself, with or without hesitation.
You are fine too.
You should try some Basic Guy or Nervous Guy Game concurrently with the Approach Anxiety Program.
- I can do 15-19, by myself, with or without hesitation.
This is normal too.
Start the Approach Anxiety program and go through it as directed. Slowly.
- I can do 10-14, by myself, with or without hesitation.
I am concerned about you.
To see where you stand - start the Approach Anxiety program.
You can't finish the first 10 days, in a 30 day span - it's worth a trip to the doctor.
This is not normal. It's not your fault.
There is something going on and we need to bring back your natural state.
You are not living in a mental state that the rest of us are.
- I can't do more than 9 of them.
Listen.
The bad news is that there's something going on.
This is not natural.
Forget about Approach Anxiety, approaching women and getting laid for now.
Even if you have some success, beat some anxiety via repetition, there is still probably something wrong and you'll need to address it a some point.
The good news is that it can be quite easy to detect endocrine/hormonal problems that could be causing your anxiety.
In 2008, I was a basketcase and I decided to get my blood taken. I had hyperthyroidism (self-induced from too much T3) and it was making me terribly anxious and irritable.
I even remember running out of a hot Los Angeles nightclub, absolutely terrified that something bad was going to happen. I even threw a homeless guy on the ground (he did grab me first).
I got it completely under control in 2 weeks.
You might have been in this unnaturally-anxious state for awhile. Many years.
You may think this hyper-anxious state is normal or have accepted it as "normal" - but it's not.
The rest of us are living in a different state.
If you can't do most of the Social Anxiety Checklist, you have a hypersensitive fight-or-flight trigger and we need to see why that is.
Once you do return to a normal state, we can start lowering your other anxieties.
Your #1 priority needs to be getting this fixed.
It's even worth taking a semester off from school or a leave from work if you are dealing with depression too. Simply burying yourself in school work or a job is a form of denial. Denial never fixed social anxiety.
Please - do yourself a favor.
You have lived in your head for too long.
It's time to reclaim your life.
It's time to make your life what it's supposed to be - livable.
What's It Like To Feel Normal?
You might not even remember.
I forgot what "normal" felt like in 2007 when I was taking 40mg of Percocet every 3.5 hours to mask my hyperthyroidism.
For one, you should be able to do the vast majority of the Social Anxiety Checklist, even if with some hesitation.
The items on the checklist should all be doable - even for introverts.
I can easily approach women but asking for a cup of water for free can be weird for me for some reason.
Always has been.
It's nothing I can't do but it sometimes requires me to be assertive with my brain that is telling me, "Don't bother them for water, you didn't buy anything." or "Just find a water fountain Chris, there are plenty at this mall."
You may have little quirks too, some items might be harder than others.
That's normal.
What is not normal is to be powerless to tell your brain -
What the hell? Asking where protein supplements are? That's not weird or hard. I'll show you.
Stop making me feel creepy, asking for water is perfectly normal.
Stop making me nervous, asking for a sample of frozen yogurt is perfectly normal.
When I talk, people listen, the store clerk is paid to listen to me, I'm going to do it.
Wearing sunglasses inside is weird/douchey but I know I shouldn't care so much what others think.
The worst thing that can happen is - nothing.
If you don't have major social anxiety that keeps you deep inside your head whenever you leave the house, with some determination/effort, you'll be able to overrule your brain or hit the breaks on the negative "YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT" feedback loop.
Normal is not -
If this resembles your life - that's not normal.
It's problem that can be fixed.
Feeling normal is getting some anxiety, but being able to recognize it and then take control of it without totally removing yourself from the situation.
Feeling normal is being able to leave your head most times when you really try.
Feeling normal is not having racing thoughts without the visual appearance of potential danger.
Feeling normal is being able to enjoy familiar social situations and environments.
Feeling normal is not being paranoid or avoiding routine, day-to-day activities.
It might have been a while since you've felt normal.
What to make of all this...
Get help.
Making understanding, treating and beating your social anxiety your #1 goal.
I'm all for natural 'performance enhancing' "soft-core" non-narcotic compounds such as Kratom and dietary supplements (Phenibut, Kava Juice Extract, Yogi Kava Tea, L-Theanine, etc.) to encourage pro-social desire and behavior.
They make a world of difference.
But they'll be EVEN BETTER if you get a handle on your social anxiety and aren't simple "masking" your anxiety.
But the fact of the matter is - if you have an undiagnosed medical problem that is causing your anxiety, self-medicating is just temporarily masking the problem.
It's a band-aid on an open wound.
Hardly a treatment.
You need to feel what it's like to be normal again.
You need to feel what it's like to live on planet earth again, not just in your head.
No dramatic fight-or-flight adrenaline spikes or avoidance of normal social situations or daily activities.
That's not normal.
That's not how the rest of us are living.
If this checklist suggests that you have social anxiety, make an appointment to see a doctor (or at least DO SOMETHING to try and treat it). You might have to try a few doctors until you find one you like.
You might feel anxious just from making the phone call.
Don't give up, it will be worth it.
If you don't have insurance, you can always get a blood test from an independent lab.
Take a look at your numbers and post them in the forum if you need help interpreting them.
Take those numbers to a doctor afterward.
I've gone to a doctor several times for anxiety, both general and social. My brother and sister have too.
Celebrities do too, if you need any more motivation.
Please help yourself.
Be honest.
It's nothing to be embarrassed about.
We were all dealt different genetics, predispositions and childhoods.
Refusing help or being in denial is something to be embarrassed about.
Not getting laid while other guys that are far less attractive and far less cool are getting action - is embarrassing.
Get this through your head -
IF YOU HAVE SOCIAL ANXIETY, YOU WILL NOT HAVE MUCH OF A SEX LIFE.
YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A SOCIAL LIFE.
NOTHING WILL SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE.
GOT IT?
This is affecting your entire life - far beyond your empty bedroom. That's actually the least of your problems.
It's time to take back your head.
It's time to take back your life.
You are welcome to tell your story below, post comments or short questions.
For FASTER, more in-depth feedback and multiple questions, I recommend that you hit up the 'Beat Social/General Anxiety' section of the forums. You will receive WAY MORE feedback in there.
Great article - the first new one that's been posted since I started reading GLL. Encapsulates the proactive, supportive, non-judgemental and no bull-shit vibe that I'm growing to love about this community.
Thanks for the nice words Joe
Thanks for the article Chris! I've had pretty severe SA problems my whole life. As a child I couldn't walk into a fast food restaurant and order food by myself. I couldn't even make extended eye contact with people. Through my own hard work I've...
Thanks for the article Chris! I've had pretty severe SA problems my whole life. As a child I couldn't walk into a fast food restaurant and order food by myself. I couldn't even make extended eye contact with people. Through my own hard work I've gotten much better and am able to interact at a fairly normal level. Though I'll always be known as the quiet guy. I doubt I'll ever seek professional help for it. Now days it only really bothers me at church and the gym. For some reason those two places are triggers than make me close down socially. Not sure why...
Anyway, I do love your recommendation for phenibut and it helps a lot! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for writing in Dan.
I'll do a separate article on gym anxiety, I've had/have that too.
It's a good example for HOW TO BEAT IT actually-
If a guy has gym anxiety, he'll DO WHATEVER HE CAN to beat it and get to the gym and get the results...
Thanks for writing in Dan.
I'll do a separate article on gym anxiety, I've had/have that too.
It's a good example for HOW TO BEAT IT actually-
If a guy has gym anxiety, he'll DO WHATEVER HE CAN to beat it and get to the gym and get the results he wants. The same mindset is involved in beating any social anxiety --- DO WHATEVER YOU CAN to figure out a way to beat avoidance.
For the readers at home - this is the supplement that Dan is referencing-
http://www.gll-getalife.com/entry/phenibut-review
its definitely GREAT - but not one to take every day.
Excellent article, Chris,
I am a kind of an anxious guy, and I thought that I had a little social anxiety too. But I can do almost all of the 25 without much trouble, maybe 20 or so easily and the rest with some effort I can do. The only that I...
Excellent article, Chris,
I am a kind of an anxious guy, and I thought that I had a little social anxiety too. But I can do almost all of the 25 without much trouble, maybe 20 or so easily and the rest with some effort I can do. The only that I refuse to do is wear a "wife beater"
Thanks a lot Chris, you have no idea how much you helped me.
Wow, great article Chris. Thank you for this.
This might sound like a complete overstatement but reading this article may
have very well been a pivotal moment in my life and the point where I really
begin to change things. I'm being %100 honest...
Wow, great article Chris. Thank you for this.
This might sound like a complete overstatement but reading this article may
have very well been a pivotal moment in my life and the point where I really
begin to change things. I'm being %100 honest here man, I have literally
began to re-think my life and re-think my future after reading this.
It almost felt like you were talking directly to me,
at certain parts of the article I was like "fuck... thats me"
I can't explain the emotions I'm going through right now, I aint going to lie
I'm kind of holding back tears right now as I type this because in hindsight
I've missed out on a lot of shit due to social anxiety and it's been a struggle for a while
and I've always thought "I know this shit isn't normal" but have still kept going about things.
I think that most of us with SA find some sort of "comfort zone" in our
reality, live in denial and find some middle ground where we go to do social things only under certain circumstances or after taking certain substances and always turn anything social into some sort of huge/exaggerated
event in our minds. When I think of myself in past social situations I almost feel like I learned how to be an "actor" in the sense that everyone around me is fooled into thinking that I'm some really extroverted person although deep down I know I'm insecure and just learned to mask my social anxiety by learning how to act social even though inside I still feel shy instead of dealing with the issue directly,
does that even make sense?
I feel like some sort of weight has been lifted off my shoulders by admitting that I have these issues and at the same time I feel like I can finally do something about it because the truth is I have lived in some sort of half ass denial for the majority of my life.
There are things that I have always known about myself but never fully admitted until I read this. Like how I chose to create a successful home based business fueled by the fact that I just didn't want to deal with people at a regular job due to social anxiety and not purely because I'm some entrepeneur like most people see me. And come to think of it almost all my major life decisions have revolved around this fear in one way or another.
Even lately I started thinking about when I was a kid and felt "normal" before I became an adult and recently said to myself "I'm pretty sure back then when I went to the store or went anywhere
I didn't get any anxiety, im pretty sure I didnt" but it's been so long that I've been so out of touch with "normal reality" that I had to read it somewhere else in order to finally admit it to myself.
I kind of got used to having anxiety to the point where it became my norm and never thought to seek any kind of help until I read this.
Late last year I told myself that I would start the approach anxiety drills sometime in march after cthis and that happened, and then march turned into may and then june and now I know that
I truly am just not ready for them and have been
obviously pushing it farther and farther back and procrastinating
because deep down I know I'm not %100 ready and have to
get these other issues handled. Thanks again Chris.
Hello Chris, I loved your take on this and the article is as always down to Earth, practical and to the point.
I'd like you opinion on something related to this, depression.
I can do all the "drills" you described above without much esitation,...
Hello Chris, I loved your take on this and the article is as always down to Earth, practical and to the point.
I'd like you opinion on something related to this, depression.
I can do all the "drills" you described above without much esitation, and I even can quite comfortably approach girls anywhere. I talk at lenght. People say I am an extrovert. (still, I don't really enjoy much being with people, beside my comfortable friends).
The problem is that I am constantly unhappy, beside the change in life situations. I don't even remember what to be happy means. It has been 5 years so far. I almost dislike or don't care about much in the world, and nothing seems to satisfy me anymore, neither sex, nor social interactions, nor work, nor travels. I care about these things only in the measure that I sometimes feel feelings of guilt for my desires (such as gettin laid to new gals).
I have daily suicidal thoughts. As a matter of time spent doing something, I could say that my number 1 priority in the last 1-2 years is having suicidal thoughs, even when at work or with gf or with friends or family.
Let me say that my life situation is not bad: I live in a big European city, I have a nice house, supportive family and friends, a bright future ahead (I am 25 and I just graduated with a powerful curriculim and degree, but I hate my future profession) but I see no future, since I don't really like/care about anything, so I have no vision.
I have been going to a psychoanalist for 2 years but it didn't help really.
I believe I could have disthymia. Or is it that maybe my life just doesn't go as I wish, so I am unhappy? What makes me discard this last position is that beside the change in life situation, my mind and mood doesn't change, and stays low; also, the chronicity fo all of this.
I don't know what's normality anymore since I've come to believe that life is basically unsatisfactory and happiness is rare, maybe I've molded this world vision on my own present situation.
What do you think? Which action should I undertake?
thank you
I think I am gonna get some help. Itâs weird that I donât want to get out of my house for days at times (living alone), avoid social situations (especially when itâs not 1 on 1) and donât have any real friends that I hang out with...
I think I am gonna get some help. Itâs weird that I donât want to get out of my house for days at times (living alone), avoid social situations (especially when itâs not 1 on 1) and donât have any real friends that I hang out with regularly. Yet I am 15-19 in this test, I have approached girls solo during the daytime countless times and have fucked 12 cute/normal girls in 8 months (11 of them were first date lays from online dating). So basically I donât have a social life. My only social life were fuckbuddies and now my social life consist of my GF.
TL DR: I donât have any friends, feel anxiety when I am hanging out with more than 1 person.
Any ideas on what I should do?
Oh and forgot to thank you Chris, your stuff is really good. Stopped thinking about dating like a PUA. Getting girls is simple (looks, social freedom and know how to close). Started working on a lot of stuff because of you (PE, gym, improving...
Oh and forgot to thank you Chris, your stuff is really good. Stopped thinking about dating like a PUA. Getting girls is simple (looks, social freedom and know how to close). Started working on a lot of stuff because of you (PE, gym, improving style, etc).
my question would be - how do you feel about not interacting with ppl? some ppl are just introverts and prefer meeting friends 1 to 1. if you feel happy with how you are i dont see any problem. wait for chris's reply though.
Chris is right in saying that if you have or think you have social anxiety....that you speak to a medical professional. While some people may find relief from some social anxiety symptoms through trying simple self-help techniques, most people...
Chris is right in saying that if you have or think you have social anxiety....that you speak to a medical professional. While some people may find relief from some social anxiety symptoms through trying simple self-help techniques, most people with a diagnosed social phobia condition will need professional treatment in order to overcome it.
I didn't think the "Get Hung" guide would have girls eyeing my bulge. It did.
I didn't think that your exercise and diet advice would have girls checking me out. It did.
I DEFINITELY didn't think that your hair-loss prevention would fix my hairline. Not in a billion years. It mother fucking did. You saved me a crazy amount of time, a ton of money, unnecessary pain, and destroyed my #1 source of anxiety. DESTROYED IT.
Kratom is next!
To anyone reading this, follow through, read this material, APPLY this material, and enjoy life.
Thanks again Chris, life would suck without you.
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