Cell Phone Chica
Aight… Wednesday, Erik and I went out to do some videos today.
This was my only day available this week since we’re in the process of moving the forum to a hot platform and other administrative stuff on my agenda.
Annoying, funny day- in that order.
The camera was giving us some issues from the start, it seemed to kinda do that in that later parts of “GoodLookingLoser In-Field Video 2,” but we didn’t realize it. We weren’t getting audio on most of the videos and it was cutting out on some of the others. 40 minutes ago, we did a hard format and factory restore to the camera and it seemed to have fixed that issue, so next round should go smoothly. I’ll be doing more on Saturday afternoon.
This video seemed to film pretty well. There’s full video and full audio (minus 8 seconds).
The only issue was that the cashier (and supervisor, not pictured) asked us to stop filming in their store.
I agreed, stood around the front of the store, and just told Erik to hide the camera as best he could. If they saw it- Erik would just leave and walk away before they called security or something. Haha- The video is going just fine until the guy notices the camera again and tells Erik to stop filming. Normally, we’d keep going, but even though the guy said it nicely– they were getting pissed at us. (legal advice has instructed me to just WALK AWAY).
So anyway, the during remaining part of the interaction, I’m just sitting there talking to her. I take her number and leave. That’s the gameplan on most of these more basic day videos.
The front part of this video is the only thing that really matters.
I engage her from a distance before we even speak, tell her to get off the phone, and grab her hand and walk into the place in about a minute. Cool girl actually.
I’m hoping the camera is fixed, we’ll do more on Saturday. Apologize for the delay… they’re cummin…
While it’ll be nice to get up some “wow” videos once we catch a few that are good quality, I have no problem showing you some incomplete footage if it’s beneficial (and audible). REAL is what we do, the wow factor may come from time-to-time, but it’s def. not the focus in these first few.
It’s not actually super easy to film and get solid audio on this stuff if you aren’t staging or faking it, so we’ll just do our best. It’ll get better once we get the timing, camera angles (for audio), etc. I think Erik (guy filming it) has done a decent job so far, the girls never see/look at the camera. We’ve only shot like 6 videos, 3 of which are now posted.
remember: “opener” is the eye-contact and wink, not me telling her to get off her phone. whether she was in the middle of a conversation or finishing it up, I have no idea.
I suggest you listen to the beginning commentary on the dynamic of the approach.
Interaction Begins at 4:40 (turn up the volume, after the commentary)
Play-By-Play
04:42 – I make eye contact and smile at girl
04:47 – I make eye contact and wink at girl
04:52 – I just say “hey hey get off your phone real quick….. don’t worry about it…. call her back… that’s alright… can’t talk.. you gotta go…” (something close to that)
05:08 – The usual intro “UMMMMMM… I know this is random but I thought you were attractive, so I wanted to come say hi”
05:11 – Girl says “hi, how are you” still probably thinking about how random/direct this is
05:18 – Usual follow up “well aren’t you going to say I’m attractive too?”
05:22 – She doesn’t want to say it because I’m a douchebag, but she’s interested in me
05:24 – Another usual folow “so what are you up to, shopping for shoes or something”
05:34 – She says she’s a flip-flop girl (note: I know right by this statement that she isn’t a Hollywood girl, she’s more real and down-to-earth)
05:37 – I say “Yo you want to grab coffee real quick?” she agrees and I grab her hand and walk in the place (this was the plan from the start, even though I usually don’t do these insta-dates)
05:41 Audio goes quiet, I say “tell me what you do” (i think) she says she’s a new 6th grade teacher
05:50 She asks where I’m from
*good audio*
06:20 She’s guesses I’m from Sacramento CA, which is basically the opposite of Los Angeles, relative to California cities. This is a bad guess from a smaller town girl.
06:25 Audio goes quiet for a few seconds, you don’t miss anything
06:31 I tell her “you aren’t so tough” and stare at her and nudge her, I sense that she’s pretending she’s tough cause she’s pretty confident
06:33 She says “I am too!!!” (explaining that she is tough).. its all just flirting btw.
06:36 I tell her that “she’s not tough in real life and I’m not even kidding”
06:41 I tell her that “some guys might think you’re tough,” she says “the majority”
06:58 When I step away the guy behind the camera see’s Erik with the camera and tells us “no filming” for the 3rd time haha… Erik leaves
There’s nothing that significant in the next 7-8 minutes. I grab her hand and sit down in the corner. Talk to her about Los Angeles, sugar-free coffee syrups, she asks me about this weekend, I excuse myself and take her number, and give her a hug.
The more aggressive parts, relative to daytime, are getting her off the phone and taking her in the coffee shop in about 60 seconds. The rest is the same basic stuff that works fine during the day that most guys can do once they take care of the majority of their AA.
hope you enjoyed, this girl was naturally pretty cute
After you watch I highly encourage you take a look at the following discussions-
- Video Discussion: “Simple and Unimpressive: Works Best?”
- Video Discussion: “Good Looking Loser Isn’t Entirely Smooth… And You Don’t Need To Be Either”
Comments, Questions, Whatever… Hit me up below–
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05:22 – I like how you’re rewarding her with the laugh and touch. This helps me to learn how to get physical from the start of the interaction.
05:37 – Grabbing her hand and leading: fantastic and dominant physical escalation move! I will definitely keep that in mind when the right time comes in the interaction.
BTW, Can you tell me how you managed to find skinny/tapered jeans that fit you so well even though you’re muscular? I can’t fit my thick squatting thighs into most designer jeans nowadays.
Yo man-
My legs are skinnier than you might think. Not “skinny” by normal definition, but compared to when I played hockey and trained for football. I couldn’t fit into most designer jeans then.
I own 3 pairs of jeans, that’s it, so maybe they are worth a look
- Rock and Republic
- Mek Denim (somewhat outdated)
- 7 for Mankind (in the video)
I also owned 2 pairs of Affliction jeans which I sold when I ditched my Affliction look, those fit pretty well. lots of tears and distressed fabric
Guess by Marciano is good too, I think its the higher-end Guess line
none of them are the ‘straight’ or ‘slim’ fit though. those are impossible for pretty much anyone who does squats to put on.. as u know
Fuck Chris that girl is fucking hot! I LOVE brunettes. So are you going to fuck this girl? She does seem kinda “tough” but that’s usually a front. Thanks for the video, keep ‘em comin’
thanks man, yeah she was pretty naturally cute. turned out to be cooler than most girls too. we shall see… maybe this friday/weekend she’s a school teacher has to be up at like 5:30am every morning
So when are you going to upload videos where you (or Scotty) get rejected? When they are into you, it’s simple. When they are not, its complicated. I want some videos on rejection, especially direct approaches “You are attractive, where you from?”.
we’ll do that, just want to get up the more basic day videos first.
all the interactions with girls that get lost are pretty much the same,
that look like this (even though I was trying to creep her out)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0iwbI4iUxg
(there’s not a lot of verbal, although they may laugh, answer the first few questions, once you touch them they start looking to leave politely)
literally they “get lost” (leave) moreso than “reject” you (verbally or physically or something)
from this camera, all the videos are like 400-600mb… fuckin huge and take an hour + to upload and 45min to process… we’ll get them up, one by one. but thats why I couldn’t put up all the footage if I wanted to. got some more coming saturday, technical probs. on wednesday (there weren’t that many girls compared to usual though)
“When they are not, its complicated.”
No it’s not, you just move on to the next one!
Do girls introduce themselves to you from their own initiation often during cold approaches? To me it has happened only once.
I used to think about 20% of the time on full cold approaches. 2 of 3 videos have it, so it’s a little high at the moment. But we’ve shot some others (the audio sucks bthmate cock) where they didn’t and the whole thing was a choppy interaction for a number of reasons (most of which is- they aren’t available, 2nd is- they might have seen the camera)
It’s possible that the girls in the 2 other videos saw me coming… therefore, it wasn’t a true cold approach. The number or %% can vary on where you live and how available the girl really is.
the answer to your 2nd question (i took it down since I don’t want guys asking about specifics on it, its the one part of my life that I don’t completely share with the general public on here)- it’s a gray area haha… dont ask, dont tell policy with me, her, erik at the moment
I completely understand, you don’t have to share anything personal you don’t want to.
It depends on the culture. Like I said, in Finland it’s absolutely not expected or common for strangers to chat wth each other at random places. We stay completely silent in buses and at bus stops.
re: Finland
that’s so weird to me, even in the most conservative states in the USA, people aren’t fucking scared to say hi to each other and make small talk
i believe u 100% btw
Yeah, it’s a cultural shock especially for people from Southern countries, such as Spain and France.
American chicks seem to be really friendly and open…it’s good!
Yeah what SSK said… It would be awesome to see some vids where you get blown out of the water. I think it would help alot of us guys to see that it’s really just part of the “game” and it happens to everyone including the experts.
yeah we’ll do them.. this is an ongoing thing… we’ll probably have 50-100 videos by this point next year.
this “blown out” or “rejected” thing is not really what it looks like though— it’s girls that aren’t available, might otherwise be interested in us if they were. it sorta evident that are just trying to show that they aren’t available and still be polite… in LA for the most part
once in a while there’s some basketcase girl who hates all men cause her higher self-esteem ex-BF dumped her and fucks her whole social circle who have bigger tits than her haha.. we’ll find one
I personally could give a fuck about seeing a video of someone getting “blown out”. Shit, we all know what that looks like or we wouldn’t be here! I already know how to get blown out, I don’t need to see a video of it. I want to see videos of the type of behavior that I want to emulate.
I think most agree with you on this, I’ll put them up though– if for nothing else to show ‘we don’t get every pussy we talk to’ UNLIKE the pick up artists hahah… we aint at their level
(sarcasm)
Have you read any of Alan Roger Currie’s or David X’s stuff? Man, these guys are hard core. You and Scotty remind me of those guys; they don’t consider themselves “pickup artists”. I actually talked to David X on the phone once, and he told me that he personally knows Mystery, David Deangelo, and Ross Jeffries, and he said none of those guys get any pussy..He said all those guys have come to him for advice..He calls Mystery “Misery” to his face, LOL
This guy…
http://www.virtualdatingassistants.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/david-x.jpg
yeah, this is pretty much what I think of the seduction guys (i met/seen most of them [based in LA] too)-
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/about-2/
(scroll down to ‘are you affiliated with the seduction community’)
http://www.goodlookingloser.com/2012/04/09/pua-scam/
but in general, i’d steer clear of the guys that you aren’t positive get hot chicks. base this on their look, vibe.. not what’s written in the their ebooks
just trust your instincts…
r u seriously comparing GLL to DAvid X???????
that guy is 400lbs and doesnt get laid… EVER
David X is married so he probably does get laid quite a bit. He got married when he was in his 40′s, he waited that long because he wanted to fuck a lot of women before he got married I guess…He’s older now, he offers advice based on the experiences he had when he was younger and was fucking a lot of women..I love his approach because it is very simple, he basically doesn’t give a fuck what a woman (or anyone else) thinks of him..My favorite quote from him is “If you have the balls to tell her you want to fuck her, then maybe your balls will fuck her, if you don’t you won’t, so what do you have to lose?” I love David X’s philosophy/attitude on women and life in general, the two times I got to speak with him were very valuable
Lol… that doesn’t even make sense dude. If “we all know” how to get blown out then why do so many guys guy go through life being scared of rejection and why would guy turn to PUA mentalities that promise them to not ever get rejected… The main thing that sets this stuff apart from others is that you play the numbers and you dont fear the blow outs. Why the fuck wouldn’t we wanna see it and embrace it.
this isn’t directed at you Dickie— just an in general comment
there’s 2 shifts that gotta be made
1) beating the majority of AA
2) start to realize and believe waht I say about Screening= the only chicks that ‘get lost/reject you’ are the ones that AREN’T available. I have friends out here that are the definition of top .00001% looks. They get rejected. It’s NOT because of their looks, the girl isn’t available. I can bet my life on that. second, chances are- every girl has fucked a guy that is not good looking and will do it again… so if you get reject, again- not your looks.
solutions
1) do the AA drills…. don’t worry if it takes a fucking year…. its worth it
2) #2 is a little more in-depth. to truly internalize my view on rejection: sexually vs. not, guys need to become good looking… or at least LOOK GOOD. They have to feel sexy, cool, get pussy and realize that they are as least good looking enough for 99% to fuck. There isn’t really a way around it, and if there was- I wouldn’t suggest it. (btw PUA was supposed to be) It’s totally worth becoming that 1% guy.
you can see, I’m not even that smooth in some of my interactions. it doesn’t matter.
especially the first one- although I don’t feel stiff, I look stiff at time (largely due to my body type and just whatever my state is) its not entirely smooth or natural to touch girls in 10-15seconds. But it doesn’t matter. These videos I’d say are the ‘average’ of how I look, I’ve been a lot more sloppy and gotten even hotter girls.
It’s not easy getting these videos in public during the day. Maybe gotta makes some more connections (in some stores or clubs) so the owners of the place know before that you are going to film there and they are cool with it and do not say anything during the filming.
“I think you are attractive, so I wanted to introduce myself, I’m NAME.” Is a really good line. I would say it sometimes, but not every time (unless it was one of the few lines that someone just likes to say most of the time, then that’s fine because it is good). It just seems that if inviting her somewhere or asking for her number, then it’s pretty clear that the guy is attractred to her and is “asking her out” (without having to verbally say she’s attractive). It is more DIRECT than what most guys use. Eventhough I don’t say it often, it still is a very good line though.
I usually now just say things like, “Hey, I’m NAME (Eye Contact and Shake Hands), (Small Talk with a slight s*xual innuendo such as, “Those are really cool shoes” and if we’re sitting side-by-side brush her leg with my arm when going to touch the shoes). She can say she has a hsb/bf. If it’s on, then just Invite her as a preface for getting her number that shows I’m interested in/attracted to her (“Say, I’m going out for drinks tonight, what’s your number?”).
Standing in front of a place and then “inviting her in.” That’s a classic. I’m def going to have to try that.
Looks like a lot of friendly girls in LA.
yeah actually, come to think of it- she said that she was in a rush to pick up her kid (unmarried w/ 1 kid) so I think she was getting some water at “coffee shop” and wasn’t planning on staying… but she liked me so she did and got coffee.
yeah girls are pretty nice here overall.. def moreso than the east coast
Before I had thought about having an “Opener” be, “Do you have kids?” and only if she said no to continue talking to her, but it seems like about all of them now have kids so there would not be many to talk to so I said “whatever” and I will now just talk to/Meet girls even if they have kids already.
This (above video) is great for an “instant date.” I do not and I am not and I will not give advice to anyone else (I’m a student not an expert). Just for conversation on this post for myself saying that I’m going to do this example from this video soon, this can be a good way to get a “date right then on the spot.” Seriously, it’s a good idea and I’m going to do this. I am open to trying new things and this will be another fun way to meet more girls and get more numbers. I’m going to go to a few different places (that have beverages like coffee, etc) over a few different days (probably if it goes good I would do this sometimes more often over the next few years) and say something to girls walking in by themselves such as, “Like to join me for a drink?” She can say, “No thanks I have a hsb/bf.” If she says, “Sure,” then it’s basically guranteed to then get her number. This is another numbers game, I figure it would not even take 100 of these “Approaches right there already at the place” to find/get a girl to go in for a drink and then get her number (maybe it would only take between 1 to 10 single girls to find 1 to go along with this “on the spot date” and then get her number for a second Meet-Up sometime. Chris did it here. This seems even easier to Approach her as she is walking in before she is at a table. Then, standing in line or once seated to maybe say things like she’s attractive and shake hands as you introduce yourself.
Hey GLL-
I didn’t know where to put this, but I felt compelled to write this after experiencing this site literally change my life and view on girls in regard to getting laid. First off, this is the best “pick-up” (not sure how else to categorize it, I know you hate PUA lingo, as I do) site that I’ve EVER come across. You are a boss man. You know your shit, you actively are on your site responding to people all the time, and constantly updating. That gives guys like me a lot of hope, and it feels good to have some help from someone who has ACTUALLY done this stuff, not the internet marketers. I love the simplicity of your “methods”, it completely changed my thought process. I feel like this site was made for me…I got some girls in high school for “free”…I didn’t deserve them in my opinion because I didn’t “earn” them, like a guy has to earn hooking up with a random chick. So I was lost for social skills when I got out of that comfort zone, and in the real world things don’t necessarily work like high school. I had to readjust my whole frame, and froze up every time i was in a social situation. I was terrified of talking to a girl that I didn’t know. But I recently got my first make out in a bar, going from having extreme fight or flight symptoms while standing in a bar on my own to that, in only 3 weeks of applying the principles from your site. I feel so much better in social situations now, just very at ease and not so uptight and pressured. Because I know it’s a numbers game, I know why I’m there, and I’m trying my best to apply the screening principles, though obviously I have a long way to go before I get to you and Scotty’s level. I know that is not a very long time, but I haven’t felt this great about anything in a long time and I felt you guys deserved thanks. I plan on continuing to practice every single day and improve. I can’t say enough how awesome this website is. I feel like if more guys knew about this site, you would be THE most popular “pick up” site on the internet, period. Seriously, thank you. You really opened my eyes.
-Dom
Hey there Dom– thank you very much.. I really do appreciate it.
The best part of what you said is your results.. thats what I’m here for. That’s what we are about. Winning haha
I like to be entertaining, insightful, etc. etc., but I’m no better than mr.PUAinternetMarketer if guys aren’t getting results, we think we have the fastest way to get from A to B and we’re gonna let everyone know.
It’s pretty cool when a guy see that he’s doesn’t have all these problems that he might have convinced himself of. And Realizing that in a matter of weeks via action. Great job.
Don’t think for a second that you haven’t earned (at some level) all the chicks you’ve been with. A very small minority of [inexperienced] people will criticize guys that get girls to positively respond to them ASAP (somewhat like this video) but a lot of work shows up in these interactions. So def. don’t feel you shouldn’t give yourself credit for everything, even if it was 5-10years ago. It takes a lot of balls (and desire) to read this stuff on the Internet and go out and do it. Most guys can’t. You did. You win.
I appreciate your feedback wholeheartedly.
Chris
… keep up the daily action